BMW Sees Internal Combustion Engines Still Going for a Couple Decades

Engines, News | June 27th, 2019 by 7
BMW Quad Turbo Diesel B57S 11

If you’ve been watching how sales are going in the automotive sector, you might’ve noticed that the internal combustion engine (ICE) is on a downward slide. After the Dieselgate scandal, the popularity of the more frugal (ICE) engines has also taken a serious hit. Even so, BMW says the diesel engine is here to stay for at least two more decades, while the petrol alternatives could live on for another 10 years.

In a recent interview with Automotive News, BMW’s head of development, Klaus Frohlich, said he sees diesel engines still in production for about 20 years while petrol engines still have a good 30 years to go. He also thinks the widespread adoption of electrified cars is not nearly as successful as some make it seem, even though the signs are good. “The shift to electrification is over-hyped. Battery-electric vehicles cost more in terms of raw materials for batteries. This will continue and could eventually worsen as demand for these raw materials increases,” Frohlich said.

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That’s a cold shower for some people but it is the truth. Unlike what other car makers are saying, this is an issue and it could very well become a bit of a headache later down the road. BMW is now working extra hard to make sure it sources its raw materials from safe mines, that don’t use child labor or break any moral etiquette. As a matter of fact, the Germans have recently announced they will be sourcing rare materials from Australia and Morocco exclusively just so that they know for sure where it comes from and that’s not something all car makers are doing.

Getting back to internal combustion engines, Frohlich did mention that while they won’t be gone for good, some mills are surely on their way out, simply because it’s too expensive to make them compliant. The V12 units are living their last days: “Each year, we have to invest to update the V12 to new emissions regulations, particularly in China. And when the V12 accounts for about 5,000 sales a year globally, this includes Rolls-Royce, the cost of these updates is several thousand euros per unit,” he said. That means in 2023 we’ll say goodbye to these mills on both BMW and Rolls-Royce models.

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Even V8 mills might be going the way of the Dodo soon, even though BMW will try to keep them in production for as long as possible. For European customers, it looks like the B57S jewel, the quad-turbo diesel mill we all love, will also be retired, as well as the 1.5-liter 3-cylinder diesel. While the former is just too expensive and complicated to justify still using it, the latter costs too much to become compliant.

7 responses to “BMW Sees Internal Combustion Engines Still Going for a Couple Decades”

  1. Dailybimmer says:

    You know, the V12 is something we germans can be very proud of, beside the Hoff ( David Hasselhoff), like the german word Hoffnung, in english hope. The white and blue german engineers from Bmw will do everything to optimize the V12 for the next decades, be it with brand new technologies or with water injection etc., in order to fulfill the fucking EU emission laws and to keep the V12 alive. Rather the
    fucking EU organization and their fucking agenda will die out, before Bmw finally removes it’s majestic V12 from it’s lineup. Let’s do not give up hope. I still believe in miracles.

    • You Thana says:

      Jeremy Clarckson was a bit in a mood and had tears in 2009 when he tested the V 12 Vantage. He thought it would be the last one. BMW made us believe the 3 pot will become a hit – it didn’t.
      We are already in the middle of a wonder.

  2. Scott Campbell says:

    It will cost billions to change infrastructure to EV’s. BMW making a slow transition by using hybrids as a bridge. More auto mergers and potential bankruptcies in the future moving from 100 year old infrastructures to all new billions of dollars facilities. Billions of dollars are burning right now. GM May need a bailout. GM wants the government(taxpayers) and private sector to pay for charging stations. Slow wheels of Bureaucracy. Oil is a finite commodity. USA funding both sides of the war in the Middle East. Buying oil from the bad guys that use those funds to kill our soldiers.

    • You Thana says:

      Oil is finite. This story is almost comical. They try to tell us for 50 years now it will end, yet it never happened. It’s even harder to believe when you look which oil exporting countries are at war or sanctioned. EVs are an attempt to escape the political struggles of the oil business not because we don’t have enough.

  3. Donald Dong says:

    BMW seems to have a point, thats why hybrid is a way to go. The V12 and V8 will be living in the last days, their inline 6 will fill the role of the V12, and 4 pot will be the main powerhouse, then they shove the EV motor up the front, they have similar power level with those V12. Also, by using hybrid, once the EV is out of juice, ICE still can power the car, as well as charge the battery, so this is a much better strategy. As for pure EV cars, perhaps future hydrogen vehicles will fill most of the roles.

  4. disqus_hiF7NvKYKq says:

    The demise of the internal combustion engine? Africa will be the last continent to see the end of the internal combustion engine. And that’s a very long way off.

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