BMW i4 Range to Exceed Tesla Offerings, Rated at up to 435 Miles

BMW i, News | March 22nd, 2018 by 72
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Earlier this year, at the Geneva Motor Show, the BMW Group’s CEO, Mr. Harald Kruger, confirmed the name of the upcoming full EV model in …

Earlier this year, at the Geneva Motor Show, the BMW Group’s CEO, Mr. Harald Kruger, confirmed the name of the upcoming full EV model in the works in BMW’s Munich HQ: BMW i4. The car will be based on the BMW i Vision Dynamics Concept and will most likely resemble a 4 Series Gran Coupe in production clothes when it finally arrives. And while the design is quite appealing, the biggest question around this new model is whether it will provide enough range to fulfill even the highest demands. As it turns out, it may very well do so.

At this week’s annual press conference, BMW’s CEO said that the upcoming i4 will be coming with the company’s fifth generation of eDrive technology which means it will be delivering the performance we’re all waiting for: “With the fifth generation of eDrive, our vehicles will be able to drive 550 to 700 kilometers on electric power, depending on the model. We will achieve this in the BMW i4 and the iNEXT.”

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In miles that adds up to anything between 340 and 435 miles and if it becomes reality, it will be beating Tesla’s offerings available today. Of course, we’re talking about a possible launch after 2020 and that means the American car maker can also improve its offerings by the time BMW launches the i4, but either way, the signs are definitely encouraging for those looking for a premium EV. In the meantime we’ll get to see the first all-electric X3 come out in the shape of the iX3 by 2020.

As for when exactly the production of the BMW i4 will kick off, 2020 seems like the target now, as Auto Express reports. The head of BMW i division Robert Irlinger, told them that the production will kick off “as soon as we have all our modular systems working, so something around 2020. We are working on a very competitive and innovative project; we are trying to find the right design for the car.”

72 responses to “BMW i4 Range to Exceed Tesla Offerings, Rated at up to 435 Miles”

  1. Sander says:

    I would prefer if they talked about kWh instead of km or mile. “550 to 700 kilometers” can mean anything.

  2. Giom says:

    Seeing as these are still early days for EVs, can you imagine where what the ranges will look like in another 10 years…

    Btw, that iNext concept is really growing on me. I like that ‘i’ has its own identity.

    • Ofentse Letsholo says:

      Yeah in 10yrs time the cheapeest EVs should range at least 400km and expensive ones should be 800km+. Plus with solid state batteries coming we will be all wanting EVs at some point.

  3. Haggy says:

    Tesla is releasing a Roadster in 2020 with a 620 mile range. Tesla has already demoed it. People have seen it on the streets. Tesla is already taking deposits. If you want to compare the range of a 2020 BMW with something, it should be a 2020 Tesla. Your headline should be “BMW’s continues to lag behind Tesla in range.”

    You aren’t even trying to be honest here. Do you think that BMW can’t survive if you tell the truth?

    • disqus_8YchtRit8p says:

      How’s your Model 3?
      Speaking of telling the truth to survive.
      Or not.

      • Haggy says:

        The Model 3 is doing fine. I did have to take it in for service because of an airbag warning. They replaced the airbag cover and the message went away. There were a few other little issues that went away on their own after OTA software updates. If anything else goes wrong, I’m sure I’ll post it somewhere.

        Since this is a BMW thread, I might as well mention that they gave me a 2018 430c as a loaner. I would recommend that anybody interested in that model who has the ability to test drive a Model 3 test drive both of them. I’d tell you my opinion but I think people are better off driving both rather than going by a random comment on the web.

        • disqus_8YchtRit8p says:

          Since neither Model 3 or Roadster are available for testing, point is moot.

          • Haggy says:

            What does that even mean? There are plenty of Model 3s on the road and it’s already the best selling EV in the US. Every major auto magazine has tested it and reviewed it.

            Tesla tested the Roadster. People have seen it. If we are going to compare something to a 2020 BMW, the only relevant point of comparison is a 2020 Tesla.

          • disqus_8YchtRit8p says:

            According to Tesla Canada’s website Model 3 is not available for testing. They had 1 on display @ CIAS last month, in the basement with the rest of the limited production specialty vehicles.

          • Haggy says:

            How is that even relevant? The car has been reviewed in Canada already and orders have opened up for Canada.

            This article is about a 2020 BMW that’s not available anywhere. What does that have to do with Model 3 availability in Canada?

          • disqus_8YchtRit8p says:

            Your op is about an imaginary Tesla: “BMW’s continues (sic) to lag behind Tesla in range”. You also reference a BMW 428c which is actually available for sale. Orders are irrelevant. Still have not seen a Model 3 on the road here. Base price model scheduled for 2019.

          • Haggy says:

            By that logic, the entire article is about an imaginary BMW — except for the fact that Tesla has already made the new Roadster and demoed it. My comment was about the headline, which is misleading because it compares a car that doesn’t exist against one that does. If you won’t accept a future model for Tesla, then you should reject the whole article.

            Whether or not you’ve seen a Model 3 has no relevance. I see many per day, but it’s a moot point since the car exists, and is already the best selling EV on the market.

          • disqus_8YchtRit8p says:

            I actually come to bmwblog to read about BMW.
            Not to accuse the blog or brand of dishonesty.
            I would go to a Tesla page if I wanted to read about them.
            I don’t.

          • Haggy says:

            When a website uses clickbait to get readers, they are going to get readers based on the headlines. I came here expecting to read about some advancement from BMW and find that there isn’t one. It’s a lie. Why shouldn’t they be accused of dishonesty?

            The headline is about BMW and Tesla so you are going to get people who are interested in both of them.

          • disqus_8YchtRit8p says:

            Until something is produced, it’s clickbait.
            e.g., Tesla “Roadster”.

          • Haggy says:

            No, clickbait refers to using a headline to get readership when it differs substantially from what the article says. Your sentence doesn’t even make sense. The Roadster has been produced. Tesla is already taking reservations.

          • Horatiu B. says:

            It’s being produced? That’s news to me. Let’s wait till 2020 to see if it goes into production.

          • Red Sage says:

            2017, 2018, 2019, and 2020 are all SOONer than 2025. Enjoy The BMW WAIT.

          • disqus_8YchtRit8p says:

            BMW have been producing i3 since 2014. How’s your MODEL 3 WAIT?

          • Red Sage says:

            The i3 is a short range 2+2 compliance car that is outsold by just about every plug-in other than the BMW 330e, Porsche Panamera E-Hybrid, and the Cadillac ELR. The only thing about the i3 that might be considered ‘good’ is that the original version had three times the battery capacity of the i8, which cost four times as much. Designing an electric car to accommodate an ICE is ALWAYS a mistake. Every time.

          • disqus_8YchtRit8p says:

            i3 is sold globally so not compliance.
            i8 hybrid so not comparable.
            How many ICE hybrid mistakes sold globally?

          • Red Sage says:

            i3 is absolutely a compliance car. It comprises less than 1% of BMW’s annual worldwide output. That makes it a compliance car.

            I was speaking of PLUG-IN HYBRID ICE VEHICLES! Pay attention. And the quantity that were mistakes…? Every single one of them. That will become obvious to buyers who were duped by the concept of ‘Using LESS Gas!’ Because every single one of them ALWAYS wants… MORE FULLY ELECTRIC RANGE. Once they become aware it is possible to drive a car and ‘NEVER Buy Gas Again!’ that is precisely what they move to do with their next purchase. Training wheels are cool, until five minutes after you learn how to ride a bike. Once people learn they don’t need the ICE crutch they’ll do whatever they must to avoid it.

          • disqus_8YchtRit8p says:

            Prototype is NOT production. Nor are deposits. Ask the Model 3 wait list.

          • Haggy says:

            I don’t need to ask the Model 3 wait list. Tesla announced the car and said that production would start by the end of 2017. Many thought they’d be late, but assuming that they were on time, the ramp up was expected to start in January. Early production was supposed to go to insiders, and that was clear from the beginning. Once production was up to speed, then cars were supposed to go to current owners. If that started now, it would be considered early compared to what reservation holders were told when they made deposits. Nobody who isn’t a current owner expected to get a car until at least June, and that was if Tesla was very aggressive compared to what they announced when they started taking reservations.

            So if you want to ask those with reservations, you will find that Tesla started filling them far ahead of time. I got mine in December. Tesla also got through the list of current owners and started taking orders a month ago from non-owners. Those are already being filled. At the current production rate, the Model 3 is the top selling EV in the US.

            Asking people with reservations will let you know that compared to what they were promised when they made their deposits, they are being offered a car far earlier.

          • Horatiu B. says:

            Was supposed to get mine in December, pushed back now till late 2018. Just saying.

          • Haggy says:

            That doesn’t sound credible. People who were supposed to get cars by December have been offered the chance to configure already. Perhaps you aren’t telling the whole story and merely don’t want a currently offered configuration.

          • Horatiu B. says:

            Ok, no point to argue and no need to prove anything.

            Go on the Model 3 Facebook Groups and read about delays.

            https://cleantechnica.com/2018/03/01/whats-35000-tesla-model-3-delay/

          • disqus_8YchtRit8p says:

            Since the Canadian website are offering delivery in 4-8 weeks (despite having no test vehicles available), something is fishy. Either the wait list was never as long as stated or Tesla are misrepresenting delivery times. I can’t order a BMW from Germany in 4-8 weeks.

          • Haggy says:

            The Model 3 isn’t coming from Germany. Tesla decided that all initial orders will have specific options. All cars are made the same way except for color and wheels, so they don’t need much advanced notice. People get to configure when their turn comes up. Then Tesla makes sure that one of the next cars coming off the line is the right color and has the right wheels. Then they ship it to Canada.

            Nothing is fishy. I got mine in the expected amount of time. Other people are getting them when expected. Those further down the list are being given estimates commensurate with their position on the list. If you want to accuse Tesla of major securities fraud, then bring your evidence to the SEC. I don’t think they will buy your “something is fishy” explanation.

          • Red Sage says:

            Prototypes are better than ‘Concepts’ or ‘Show Cars’.

          • disqus_8YchtRit8p says:

            Aerodynamically, a roadster cannot achieve the #’s Tesla claim, so this is not prototype, concept or show car. It is @ best hype.

          • Red Sage says:

            Hype? That is stated every day in BMW’s marketing for a supposed ‘ULTIMATE DRIVING MACHINE’. Complete [BOLSHEVIK].

          • disqus_8YchtRit8p says:

            You quote s 1970’s American ad slogan.
            You have been a victim of hype for a very long time.

          • Red Sage says:

            Apparently you are unaware that BMW has used the exact same slogan in their North American marketing for some 40+ years. You don’t have to believe me, but it’s true. Here, have a look for yourself…

            http://www.bmwusa.com

            http://www.youtube.com/bmwusa

          • Red Sage says:

            Aerodynamically, neither can a Bugatti Veyron SS, or a Callaway Sledgehammer Corvette, but they still managed 255+ MPH as top speeds. And every Tesla vehicle has a better Coefficient of Drag than either of those dinosaurs.

          • Haggy says:

            It’s a claim that Tesla has promised to exceed and they are already taking reservations based on those specs. They have no choice but to exceed then.

          • Red Sage says:

            By your own logic, anything about BMW i4 is thus, clickbait. Hence, proving once again that… Haggy is always right.

          • Horatiu B. says:

            I’m curious where the “Always right” statement comes from

          • Red Sage says:

            Merely a statement of absolute fact. Just like this one: Haggy is AWESOME.

          • Horatiu B. says:

            You can accuse us of many things, but clickbait titles? I would say never. Those claims come from BMW who has often talked about the next-gen battery and range.

          • Haggy says:

            I assume you know what clickbait is. You know that the purpose is to get more clicks. If you honestly believe that if you had a headline saying that BMW will have a range of 435 miles by 2020 and not mention Tesla, and you’d get the same number of clicks, then why mention Tesla?

            Their claim is for the 2020. Your article says that it beats Tesla’s offerings as of today. Taken together, that’s correct, but the headline isn’t. You said in the headline “to exceed Tesla” and the article says the opposite. Exceeding what they do now is not to exceed them in the future when the BMW comes out. If you don’t want to be accused of clickbait than don’t do it. I don’t want to accuse you of “many things,” because the article itself seems factual. But when you conveniently leave out that BMW is not “to exceed” Tesla’s offerings, unless Tesla never comes out with a car that they have already demoed and started taking reservations for. You also conveniently leave out any mention of what Tesla is offering for 2020 and that the range exceeds what BMW may offer by quite a bit.

            You could change the title to one that doesn’t make a false comparison, which should be no problem if you believe you will get as many readers that way. You could even mention what Tesla will be offering the same model year if you want to be objective.

          • Horatiu B. says:

            Again, the article was not meant to be a clickbait and it’s pretty fair.

          • Haggy says:

            Perhaps it wasn’t meant to be clickbait. I didn’t say that the article wasn’t fair. But the headline is clickbait if it gets people to read the article based on an inaccurate perception. You are free to change it. If it’s not clickbait, you have nothing to lose.

          • Horatiu B. says:

            All I would change is this:BMW i4 Range to Exceed Today’s Tesla Offerings, Rated at up to 435 Miles

          • Haggy says:

            That would be fair and accurate. If you want to mention the Roadster and give a reason why you are sceptical of Tesla’s claim, feel free to do that too.

          • Horatiu B. says:

            You need to look into the context of the i4, which will be a Model 3 competitor and not against the low volume Roadster. That’s the idea of those comparisons.

          • Horatiu B. says:

            We made a comparison cause everyone compares now the two brands, so it’s only normal.

          • Haggy says:

            You compared the range of a 2020 BMW to a 2018 Tesla, knowing that the 2020 Tesla has a better range than the 2020 BMW. That is not normal.

          • Horatiu B. says:

            How do we know that?

          • Haggy says:

            How do you know what?

          • Horatiu B. says:

            The Roadster is not yet in production, so let’s see those final range claims.

          • Haggy says:

            The claim is that the final range will exceed the demo model. They said the same thing about the Model 3, and the smallest battery exceeds the claims made when they started taking reservations. How do we know what BMW will have until it’s in production? That’s downright irrational.

          • Red Sage says:

            Nevermind me, I just came to give up-votes to Haggy’s posts because he is ALWAYS RIGHT. If I had realized this was at BMWBlog, I might not have clicked it at all…

          • disqus_8YchtRit8p says:

            Yes, you are both always right about fantasy cars.
            You deserve each other.
            Enjoy your Roadster.

          • Red Sage says:

            It would help if you used the phrase ‘test drives’ or something instead of just ‘testing’ because that is very confusing. As Haggy has noted, multiple independent third parties have tested the Tesla Model 3. No one has done so with the BMW i4, and won’t do so for years.

            By which time, whatever impressive stats BMW lists today will have been greatly surpassed by actual Real World Tesla products. Don’t believe me? Take a look at the stream of announcements for an AUDI A8 e-tron that were steadily pushed back as Tesla Real World products kept surpassing them prior to its eventual outright cancellation.

            BMW is DOOMED.

          • disqus_8YchtRit8p says:

            BMW’s viability has been proven for over a century.
            Tesla? Can’t even get an affordable volume vehicle on the road.

          • Red Sage says:

            Every inch as ‘affordable’ as the 3-Series, and soon to be outselling it in the U.S., then outselling it worldwide before 2019 ends. It’s been a long time since the BMW 2002, buddy. Though the M235i was impressive for a couple of minutes before it, too, became old news.

          • disqus_8YchtRit8p says:

            How does a car they can’t produce outsell anything? Why does their Canadian website claim delivery in weeks but none available for test drives?

          • Horatiu B. says:

            Most of those reviews were with customers’ cars since Tesla has been shady about letting people review them. Google that and you will see

          • Haggy says:

            What does that have to do with what I wrote in the least? I didn’t come here to attack you. I merely pointed out an inconsistency and one of your readers went crazy. Now you are accusing other companies of being shady but not providing sources.

            Tesla doesn’t have extra cars to lend to reviewers, They have a backlog of about half a million orders. How is it shady not to do something?

          • Horatiu B. says:

            I will do the digging for you from other journalists, whom you might deem respectable and show you the tactics Tesla employed with the reviewers.

          • disqus_8YchtRit8p says:

            “…downright irrational” is falsely accusing someone of writing lies & clickbait headlines while defending a product that doesn’t actually exist. “How do we know what BMW will have until it’s in production?” Because we have over a century of of production & Concept history, as opposed to a company that hasn’t even proven they are capable of reliable volume manufacturer & distribution. Of course you are here to attack him & the brand while typing about hype as though it were reality. Enjoy your hyperloop back to Mars.

          • Red Sage says:

            You do know that there is no BMW i4 available for testing, driving, reserving, or buying, right? Only for ‘viewing’ as a stagnant ‘concept car’ or in video renderings of what BMW designers hope it might do, someday.

          • disqus_8YchtRit8p says:

            What part of Concept don’t you understand?

          • Red Sage says:

            That is a question you should ask yourself. In case you haven’t…? ‘Concept’ translates to ‘NOT REAL’. Meanwhile, ‘Engineering Prototype’ means ‘Operational Case Study’.

          • disqus_8YchtRit8p says:

            I know what a Concept is, have watched many go into production. Roadster not one of them.

    • Horatiu B. says:

      Two companies with different approaches. One creates hype and eventually delivers the product, with delays and maybe beta features, while the other takes a more traditional approach to car manufacturing. No one says one is better than the other, different crowds and expectations.

    • Horatiu B. says:

      As far as 2020 Roadster, let’s see, they need to figure out Model 3 production first. So I wouldn’t really bet much on the deadline

    • Arthur Burnside says:

      The Tesla raodster (it’s not really a roadster) is a very limited production vehicle costing $250,000. Now , do you really think there is another car out there that can be legitimately referred to as a direct competitor ot Tesla’s roadster?
      As for driving ranges, Tesla’s Model S has no space for additional batteries beyond its 100 kWhr battery and that one goes a little over 300 miles. and costs well over $100,000. The only new vehicles Tesla will have in 2020 is a Model Y (less than 350 miles) and possibly a pickup truck. Tesla’a $70,000 75kWhr Model S has already been embarrased by the modest Chevy Bolt, which has a greater driving range. Tesla’s Superchargers are now second rate – the CCS 350KW are more than twice as fast as the Tesla Supercharger 120KW chargers. And the upcoming Jaguar I Pace and Porsche Mission e are both faster than all of the Model S variants except the very expensive P100D. In terms of non-straightahead performance, the Porsche Mission e has been built to easilly outrun any Model S. Tesla’s charging network is a joke – stations are located 40 or more miles apart and wil be overwhelmed whenever Tesla figures out how to manufacture a car for the mass market (the Model 3). CCS chargers are used by virtually every automaker on the planet except for Nissan and will be the obvious worldwide standard. Tesla Superchargers are a dead end and will disappear.

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