Soon after Tesla owner Elon Musk tweeted the coming of a dual-motor Model 3, we wrote about how he felt it could compare with the BMW M3. We really just reported what he had said and gave our thoughts. Simple. Since his tweets, though, the interwebs has been awash with both praise and criticism, from both fans and critics. He’s also since provided some more specs about the upcoming Model 3. So we thought we’d look deeper at the comparison between both cars, simply because Musk is adamant that a car that doesn’t even exist yet can not only take on but “beat” the BMW M3 on track.
Here’s what we know from what Musk had to say about the upcoming Tesla Model 3 Dual Motor Performance (DMP for the sake of my typing): It will be able to get from 0-60 mph in 3.5 seconds, will have a top speed of 155 mph (unspecified whether that’s electronically-limited or not) and it will boast 310 miles of range. According to Musk, the Model 3 DMP will cost around $78,000 or “About same as BMW M3”.
He also went on to say that it will be 15-percent quicker than the M3 while also sporting better handling. Just to make sure he wasn’t sounding too modest, he also threw in “Will beat anything else in its class on the track”.
Okay, so that’s out of the way. Now let’s look at the BMW M3. The M3 actually starts at $66,500, so about $12k less than Musk claims his new Model 3 DMP to cost. To get close to Musk’s price claim, the M3 would have to have its Competition Package and a dual-clutch transmission, which puts it a few thousand dollars less than $78k. So that’s the spec of M3 we’re going to use.
The BMW M3 Competition Package sports a 3.0 liter twin-turbocharged I6 engine that makes 444 hp and 406 lb-ft of torque. Musk doesn’t claim power figures for the Model 3 DMP but we’re going to assume it’s more than the M3’s power. Thanks to that dual-clutch transmission, it can get from 0-60 mph in about 3.8 seconds, so slower than the Model 3 DMP. The Tesla is also all-wheel drive and electric, so it should be easier to launch more consistently. The M3 Comp Pack also has a top speed of 155 mph but is electronically-limited to that, with an optional M Driver’s Package bumping it up.
On paper, then, the two cars are pretty evenly matched and it does seem as if the Model 3 DMP will be a bit faster. So Musk isn’t far off there at all. If he had left it at that, no one would have really cared. But claiming the Model 3 DMP will be beat the M3 and everything on track pushed it a bit too far.
Here’s where it gets tricky. The dual-motor Model 3 doesn’t even exist yet. So there’s no way to claim that it will beat anything on track. For all we know, the new Corolla Hatchback could spank it (even if that’s damn near impossible). But that’s not the only problem with his claim — the fact that the Model 3 DMP will weigh quite a bit, thanks to all of its heavy batteries and dual electric motors. So it’s likely not going to be a scalpel sharp track toy, like the M3 is along with all of the other cars in the segment. Sure, all of its weight is in its belly, like a snake, but it’s still going to be portly.
Then there’s the fact that the Model 3 DMP will also be able to do just a few laps before its battery drains too far to continue and it will need to charge. And that’s only if the battery doesn’t overheat first, as Teslas are prone to doing, sometimes after even just one 0-60 mph launch. All the while, the M3 will be able to do lap after lap, all day long, as we’ve seen several times before. The M3 is proven on a track, the dual-motor Model 3 doesn’t exist yet and Tesla’s track record (pun intended) isn’t the best.
We’re not the only ones who’ve been criticizing Musk’s tweets about this supposed performance Model 3. Most car journalists are quickly finding the holes in his claims, but that’s another story. Then there’s the fact that independent publications are finding some serious issues with their Model 3s, such as Edmunds and Consumer Reports. Both of those publications purchased their cars, so as to not show bias, and have both seen countless issues with them in only a few months. So claiming that a car that hasn’t done any real world testing outside of Tesla, if it’s even done that, and that has the amount of reliability issues that it does, will beat established and excellent competitors on a track under grueling conditions is simply the talk of, let’s say, eccentric.
I get wanting to promote your brand and being excited about a new product. In fact, I encourage it. But making outlandish claims and then attacking media for questioning them is madness.
We have no doubt that Tesla will eventually make a dual-motor Model 3 and it will be incredibly fast. It will also likely be fun to drive and very impressive, as all Teslas are. But Musk has a tendency to over-promise/under-deliver and this looks like it could be a prime example. From the specs he’s provided, the only thing we know is that this dual-motor Model 3 will be fast. But it’s doubtful that it will be faster than the BMW M3, Mercedes-AMG C63 S, Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio or Audi RS4 on track.
Only time will tell how these cars will compare with the Model 3 on track. And that’s what Musk should have left it at that.
In terms of specifications when was the last time Musk “over promised and under delivered”? Musk’s over promising and under delivering is mostly in the context of (not) meeting timelines. More often that not when he gets there he beats expectations…
Production time, production quantity, quality control, autopilot capability, performance…
Production time and and quality tie to the timelines.(read my comment again)
Quality control and Auto pilot capability will get better over time.(again this ties with timeline, sort of)
Performance is something debatable; the Paid analysts, reviewers have mixed views on this but imost of the customers are definitely happy with the performance. I go with the Customers on this..
looks like my comment wasn’t too clear.
My reference was more towards specifications, features:
Capabilities, Acceleration, speed, battery range, handling, styling etc
On all these parameters Elon definitely does NOT ‘over promise and under deliver’.
Elon has never said Tesla will deliver best build quality in the world…
But yes Elon does over promise and under deliver when it comes to meeting timelines…
He definitely over promised with the claims that Model 3 will outhandle and beat the M3 on track.
Look at the other M3 competitors that for decades have been trying to beat BMW on their own game with more power, more aggressive tyres etc (C63, ATS-V, RS4, Giulia Q) yet M3 is still the leader when it comes to handling track performance.
This is what more than 30 years of experience on building the best sports sedans gets you.
We will see match-ups like this between M3 and competitors for track performance. Time will tell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3n7zhb7aN8
And again, as only rwd., the BMW is unique.
Since a new model is impending, this is ALL hype, neither of the new vehicles are actually available.
Time will tell whether he over promised on Model 3’s capabilities Vs BMW M3
The discussion was with regards to Elon’s track previous record…
Maybe you have seen this by now: https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesla/model-3/2019/tesla-model-3-performance-track-mode-release-version-review/
Oh, please, he over promises on these also. A tablet controlled car is not a feature, it is a functional disaster. Read the reviews, and don’t trust the brakes he Tesla could not get right the first time.
As yet we have no proof Tesla are capable of producing a reliable, affordable mass production vehicle. Aren’t customers doing their beta testing for them (whatever that is)?
Rocket Ships. He over delivered by a WIDE margin.
This article is misleading. The Model 3 weight is very similar to that of the BMW. The weight is not posted yet for the dual motor however the front motor is relatively small and is not a significant weight contributor. The discussion about overheating batteries is relevant to the Model S which is going on six years of age at this standpoint. The battery on the Model 3 is new and has been designed to overcome this deficiency.
We don’t know that it will be the same weight as the M3. I said it would weigh quite a bit and it will. A dual motor electric car with that big of a battery, built on a steel and aluminum chassis? Of course it will be heavy. That’s not the best recipe for a track car is the point I was trying to make….
The standard-battery Model 3 weighs 3549 pounds. The long-range battery version weighs 3838 pounds. The Model 3 now in production already has in place the connections, structure, and space for the front motor, so the added weight will just be the motor itself — a 70 kW (90 HP) hybrid synchronous motor weighs about 110 pounds. Weight is roughly proportional to power, so adjust accordingly, but expect about 4000 pounds for the Model 3 Performance.
Good digging and info. The M3 weighs 3651, per Car and Driver. So the Model 3 will have about 350 lbs on the M3, which is a good amount more. Claiming a 4,000 lb car to be an excellent track car before it’s done any actual official laps is a bit of a stretch.
But isn’t a new M3 imminent? And aren’t BMW’s kilos trending downwards?
The cells in Model 3 is bigger than in Model S. So probably harder to cool. But the motors and converters are probably easier to cool in Model 3.
Model 3 at Laguna Seca (video). Motor and battery held up fine; stock brakes not suitable for racing. Perhaps the Model 3 Dual-Motor Performance will get upgraded brakes. Tesla claims 0-60 at 5.1 seconds for current production Model 3, but actual track tests say 4.6 seconds. Is Tesla’s 3.5 second figure for the Performance edition also conservative?
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-3-laguna-seca-raceway-track-racing-video/
I’m sure the Model 3 dual motor will be every bit as fast as claimed, maybe even faster. But in terms of being faster than some of the best sport sedans on the planet on a race track, let’s wait until we see it is all. Tesla doesn’t have a good record of track use and, just because motor trend tested it and it didn’t explode, doesn’t mean it can hold up for a day of track testing alongside an M3 or C63 or Alfa Giulia.
Absolutely waiting to see actual performance is hugely better than speculating. We should also see how BMW’s upcoming i4 and iNext stack up to the different versions of the Model 3.
Which was my point. Musk is claiming the Model 3 to be the best performance sedan in the segment before it’s done a single lap. Then attacks the media when we question it.
We will see how BMW’s i4 stacks up but we certainly won’t be making any claims that it will performance better/worse than anything else until it can prove it.
Elon can certainly express his opinion about the Model 3 Performance, because it exists and he and Tesla personnel have driven it on the track. In the past before the regular Model 3 was sold, they tested those pre-production cars on the street, sometimes in the company of a BMW 3-Series, so I expect they have done the same thing with the new versions. But for the rest of us, I’m sure people will (late-summer) put the two competitors head-to-head and publish the results.
Maybe Elons lap is 500 meter straight, 180 degrees turn and 500 meter straight, one lap only.
You’ve probably seen this, but just in case: https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesla/model-3/2019/tesla-model-3-performance-track-mode-release-version-review/
I realise that Streets of Willow is a slow and technical track, but this is just the beginning and I think there are more improvements to come with track mode.
Here’s a Model 3P on a faster track with some minor mods (all in class):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6Gm_Xv3f3Y
Where did he challenge the media that questioned him? Seems pretty laughable!
Except that you’ ll have to wait for 2020 -2022 to see the Inext and i4 models :)) …We know the specs for IX3 which are pretty bad and not competitive if they launch electric x3 today and not in 2020…The only germans who seem competitive in terms of specs are Porsche with their Mission E…the others are living in wonderland, just like Nokia, Ibm etc etc
More curious to see 3 Series BEV. Or actual Model 3 on the road.
One fast lap or a few sprints to high speeds do not a performance car make. Going fast on a track wastes a lot of energy, and energy density is something batteries do not have.
I’m sure you have read this by now, but just in case you haven’t: https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesla/model-3/2019/tesla-model-3-performance-track-mode-release-version-review/
I realise that Streets of Willow is a slow and technical track, but this is just the beginning and I think there are more improvements to come with track mode.
This was on a faster track with some minor mods:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6Gm_Xv3f3Y
Nico, I’m sure you have read this by now, but just in case you haven’t: https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesla/model-3/2019/tesla-model-3-performance-track-mode-release-version-review/
I realise that Streets of Willow is a slow and technical track, but this is just the beginning and I think there are more improvements to come with track mode.
This was on a faster track with some minor mods:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6Gm_Xv3f3Y
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Elon, will deliver on its promises but almost never on time. This is Elon’s world and we’re just living in it. The amount of progress he’s made within the aerospatial industry is amazing, his Falcon 9 rocket is light years ahead of competion. United Alliance, Arianne, Orbital Atk are all struggling to survive now thanks to his Falcon 9. His Falcon 9 rocket, latest version, can be reused dozens of times after just a few days , something that the ones I mentioned above laughed at when he started the project. Same will happen with car manufacturers, who laughed at him when he said he will buit his own charging network, when he said that he will have the fastest accelerating sedan, when he said he will have the longest range on an electric car etc….Elon always delivers but not on time, media loves to thrash his timelines and not whst he achieved …Elon accelerated the introduction of clean energy and clean transporation by 10 years at least. We should thank him for that instead of playing with words without saying anything…Next month when a few hundred dual motor tesla 3s get delivered and beat the M3 on the track will you write another troll article ? I have a hunch that you will have another missed timeline to write about instead of focusing on the achievement : his Tesla killed the M3 on his turf…the track
at least one tesla 3 dual motor prototype ( which do exist since February ) were already tested against the M3 on track and that’s why Elon said that….all you can say now is that, the car doesn’t sell today… like that matters when you will see them on the road in a month from now
Except he doesn’t always deliver. Stop spewing the Tesla Kool aid and get back to reality. Electric cars are not the clean energy machines you think they are. This is coming from an engineer who actually unstands this stuff and doesn’t believe every trumpesque tweet he posts.
Well one is electric motor and the other one is ICE, its not even the same to start off with. BMW has X Drive on many of its models, but not the M3, but if BMW do a M5 on a M3, just like the new release rocket, then it will be different, it will embarrass the Model 3, plus BMW does have an i8, taking electric motors on the front and the ICE moving its rears wheels, basically, they know how to do any setups, anyone willing to throw at them. Telling people that 4WD with dual motors, can destroy the M3, please, stick it on the track, and I won’t use the word destroy, its far too embarrassing, its like the Model 3 raising the white flag on the 318i. The Model 3 quality is so impressive, that it also raises red flag at Consumer Report, and its brakes are not up to stuff. I don’t think the M3, AMG C63, and the Audi S, plus the Italians are going to lose any sleep. Tesla’s financial performance is so great, that it tries to tell the world that money came out from the sky, but on its cashflow, its kind of telling you that the Management doesn’t know how to juggle with it, thats why Elon has to made statements to get people to turn to the Model 3, even if they can’t deliver the physical products, he has to work the crowd to get them instant turn on. Their questionble workmanship is never important for him, so he can say whatever he can get away with. If BMW wants a M3 to murder the Tesla, just shove a 3.5L 6 Turbo along with XDrive in it, Elon wouldn’t even be able to tweet, or better get a hybrid unit in there which has the best of both worlds, that will be fun. The M3 will keep going while the Tesla will need to be tow and put into a cool fridge to avoid blowing up, they also better turn off the autopilot, before they cause another accident.
I have been following BMW longer than Musk has been alive, their 1st EV prototype arrived 1 yr. after he did. Since I prefer fact to hype or blind faith, NO, I MOST DEFINITELY do not live in his world. Any more than I do Trumpf’s. I live in a city of 7 million and have yet to see ANY Model 3 on the road. Keep your hype to yourself!
Musk is becoming Donald Trump, he’s desperate, because of Tesla beautiful financial numbers, plus apples vs oranges comparison. Remember Tesla is supposed to be head and shoulders above other car makers in reliabilities due to zero moving parts but sorry it’s worse than others. Just to tell people that a 4WD will launch faster than a rear drive and better handling due to 4WD cheat are the only things it can do. Tesla can’t handle autobahn, nevermind about the track, it can’t even do a qualify lap without limping, maybe Musk should concentrate of paying off its suppliers and its lenders. That’s more important than going at the German Big 3.
Can’t handle the track?
Read this: https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesla/model-3/2019/tesla-model-3-performance-track-mode-release-version-review/
And watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6Gm_Xv3f3Y
Tesla is a first generation car. How many generations is the M3? Give Tesla a break!
Its not that people don’t give them a break, its because we don’t like big mouth people. When you can deliver quality, and on time, without having to rely on apples vs oranges comparison, then we don’t say anything.
I think most of us here respect Tesla, its cars and its people.
Its just Musk that has a big mouth.
And what CEO is not?
I’ll give Tesla a break when people stop referring to an incomparable sedan as an M3, a moniker BMW originated in the last century. But since this will also be a last generation car if Tesla don’t get it together, point may be moot.
It was supposed to called “Model E” but Ford reactivated their expired trademark. Musk turned the ‘E’ around to make it ‘3’. The car-release schedule for Teslas spells S E X Y …
Ford is E
Mercedes and Jaguar are S
BMW and now Mercedes are X
So the company that doesn’t spend money on marketing instead just rips off other companies’?
Leadership. S, E, X, Y was supposed to be clever? Not even the co. name is original.
Track performance is comprised of and determined by many subsystems performing their utmost to contribute to carrying the vehicle against physics around the circuit in the lowest possible time.
Hence performance = lap time.
With the recent article by Consumer Reports substantiating that multiple Model 3 braking distance tests were performed and each consistently turned up worse than a Ford F-150, logic would suggest that the same Model 3 brakes would work even harder in the braking zone when applied to a dual-motor Model 3 that is heavier. Despite the offset of instant torque coming out of the turn, the Model 3 brakes would heat up and begin fading after comparatively fewer laps compared to an F80 (even without ceramic brakes). Even if a dual-motor Model 3 could out accelerate an M3, it would have to somehow manage it’s speed because you can only go as fast as you can brake. I still don’t see clear evidence that Musk’s claims are accurate when he compares true track performance. None of this even accounts for endurance, after 6 laps on any decently sized circuit how will a Model 3 perform?
Those brakes are now fixed. By an over-the-air update to the ABS software! And it’s apparent to me you have NEVER visited a track because you need special brake pads for track usage… Model 3 just clocked a 1:48 at laguna seca with small upgrades to the pads …
Electric cars are very very easy to drive
The traction control is much much better simply because the motor can react about 100 times faster than an internal combustion engine can
The result is that while an expert driver who does nothing wrong can get 100% of the performance of an IC car – any old plonker can do that in an EV
So for 99% of drivers an EV will be faster even if for the 1% the IC car will be faster
Check Nürburgring times with normal drivers. If we compare BMW M5 and the fastest Model S, 99 percent of drivers are faster in the petrol car.
And since many of us live in gridlock, not really an issue. Would gladly have an M550i over a Model S, regardless.
Want to seriously be a BMW competitor Tesla…. Le Mans is just under a month a way. Course Tesla won’t be there in fact I’m pretty sure a Tesla will never finish that race regardless of year. Until words are turned into action Tesla is just words. To put it another way any car company that can’t even manage panel gaps will never even be a Chevy competitor much less anything from Germany.
I tell you what the #1 thing I look for when buy a car is panel gaps. Range, Passengers, Horsepower, they all PALE in comparison to panel gaps! Can you even hear yourself talk?
I think you have forgotten the point of this discussion in you’re desire to defend Tesla. The point of the discussion is/was the Tesla 3 a competitor with the M3. The annswer is no. With panel gps you can get a USA quarter dollar into it will never be a competitor just a sloppy built wanna be.
Panel gaps are a basic sign of build quality. Ask any body guy/girl. Can’t get that right I cringe to think what else is wrong.
Panel gaps are something you optimize when you are bankrupt of new ideas to innovate. Tesla has proven able to innovate in absolutely every dimension of car design. For that, i can forgive panel gaps.
In which area does the Tesla Model 3 beat the BMW?
– gas mileage
– safety – NHTSA crash tests
– pollution
– quietness
– 0-60 time
– self-driving ability
– customer satisfaction (as measured by consumer reports)
– cargo space
– sunroof
– cost of maintenance
I am making fun of people who talk about panel gaps, because in the huge scheme of things, there are lots and lots of things that matter far more.
You defend BMW because it goes around in circles on a closed track pretty nice. At Laguna Seca, Tesla with an amateur driver (base model) is within 3.8% of a BMW 335i. Soon, I think it will be equal.
Gas mileage is a myth, I would have lost 10,000$ waiting a week to charge a model 3 in June July when I did 20,000 kms. Winter? range drops 40% in Canada, EVEN WHEN NOT DRIVING. Since T users claims 30-50$ per month (70 in winter), and I burn roughly the same with my ICE mileage, the better mileage claim is rubbish. I fill a tank in 2 min got 750+kms highway. FACT. Hydrocarbons are MORE energetic than Li Ion. This is a science fact. Some future Star Trek tech will be higher than HCs, but NOT current Li ion tech (maybe solid state batteries). Self driving is BS as all get it or no one. 4-5 months of winter you cannot see actual lanes, and roads self modify with ice and snowbanks. all sensors salt covered… Pollution is also rubbish, as 80% of the world lacks the ability to safely dispose Li Ion and hazard materials, AND WILL LACK SO FOR %) YEARS. so if even 4 % of world cars would be Li Ion, within 5-109 years we have a bigger crisis than CO2 combined. You think DRC or Nigeria will safely recycle batteries? Plus the cost of producing electricity (coal) and car materials, the pollution delta is NEGLIGIBLE vs ICE output. lol Customer satisfaction? Judging by ergonomic complaints, OTHER EVs are more ergonomic, but crappy in general. Customer satisfaction is a An applesque cult like thing. Safety? 44 fires / 300,000 cars vs Ford 6 / 2 million cars so 200 times more fire prone. Crash rating, i hand you that.
The tesla performance 3 was already tested on the track against the m3, that’s why Elon said that…you will see the results soon…now regarding sales because some of you said that you live in 7 million people cities and have yet to see a model 3 ….the tesla model 3 was already the best sold in its class in Q1 ( January – March) in the most populous state (California) with 3723 units sold ( Bmw 3 and Mercedes C class, only sold about 3200 in the same time) , all this considering that Tesla missed the Q1 production target of 2500 per week. Now the output is nearing 4000 vechicles per week and if the Q2 target of 6000 vehicles per week is achived, we will see more Tesla 3s sales in Q2 than Bmw & Mercedes combined. Everybody is mocking Elon comparing it to Trump, because he misses time targets, but fails to see the relevant picture : He always delivers, whether is the Falcon Heavy , the Tesla Semi Truck or the Model 3 he always delivers…but not on time…if you see the titanic chalanges behind his achievements you can understand why time and Elon can’t get along
You do realize that the current 3-series is about to be replaced by a all new 3-series very soon? Can you somehow back up your claim that the ‘tesla performance 3’ was tested ‘on the track’? What kind of track?
The ‘all new’ 3 series better be fantastic. Because lately BMW cars are simply getting fatter and happier – every year they are less about performance, and more about luxury. And this revision needs to be done QUICKLY, as BMW sales are dropping like a stone in Northern California, where I live – close to Tesla.
-40% 3 and 4 series versus 2017, YTD…
His tracks must look like drage race strips, it’s the only area where the model 3 can beat the M3 … On a track this familly car can’t rival with a proper sports car perfectly balanced, refined over generations and made for this purpose… The reason he picked the M3 was to justified the huge price of his model 3 vs say a normal 3 series
Read this and watch the video:
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesla/model-3/2019/tesla-model-3-performance-track-mode-release-version-review/
I think the writing is on the wall. ICE cars are doomed. If not doomed entirely then the market for these cars is doomed to shrink by half, VERY soon! Every year, EVs beat ICE cars in more and more respects : Gas Mileage (check), 0-60 acceleration (check), interior space (check), quietness (check). ICE car marketing morons have put lipstick on the “loud, smelly” gas engine with names like “Coyote” or “Predator” but in reality, these are just ugly parts the ICE car where everybody suffers the same. Manual transmissions are dinosaurs, “Dual Clutch with paddle shifters” sounds cool but how about “No Transmission”? check.
Gas Mileage? lol, I did lots of 1000 mile trips June-July, 700-750km+ per ICE tank, in a Model 3 would have needed ONE WEEK WAITING TO CHARGE. -10,000$ money loss with EV (time) check. Quieteness? Despite 360Hp, I admit a dozen or so occurrences when I turned my ICE off thinking I needed to turn it on. TRAFFIC NOISE or ambient exceeding idle engine. And rolling, my AC vents are as audible. Unless accelerating, and then I tell the speed just from sound- whereas tesla- no ergonomics and down-gaze – Hazard Model 3? Check. Unsafe Li Ion burns car or occupants? CHECK, 200fold Ford levels. So EV is the future, but NOT TESLA EV, and certainly not Li Ion. Let’s see. Can you name me a single Li Ion battery recycle program in South America Asia or Africa? Because if not WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF EVEN 10 MILLION EVs ran there? All of last century’s global warming would pale in comparison to 3d world countries dumping or not recycling these toxic materials.Eco Hazard EV Li Ion ? CHECK. Mass unemployment with millions of ICE supported business layoffs CHECK. Skyrocketing raw materials cost? CHECK and Check. Winter Range loss of 40% in Canada? CHECK. Luxury price 75-80,000$? CHECK. So before Check and Check, give a due subjective considerations TO ALL SIDES of the argument. All of the world’s CO2 emissions would PALE with 5% of vehicles being EVs and discarding toxic stuff..
…and then the model 3 came in at a silent, but deadly, 3.3 second to 60mph… LOL. BMW Museum Blog. Snigger snigger snigger.
So is it all about 0 to 60 times? That’s all it matters today?
You sound like you haven’t read the handling reviews. I can’t share links here but if you google it, shouldn’t take you more than a few minutes to realize the Model 3 handles like a boss… rides like a boss… and looks like a boss.
This is hilarious!
Now that the Model 3 performance has been out a while and has basically blown away the BMW M3 in both acceleration and handling, Bellisarius has just stopped posting. His “week waiting to charge” was untrue 9 months ago, as a supercharger will give the Model 3 an 80% charge in 40 minutes. The new V3 chargers will give you 200 miles of range in under 15 minutes. Now let’s, look at the BMW i3. Over $50k, resale drops over 50% in 2 years, range is half the Tesla and acceleration is slower. Plus, it is a very ugly vehicle, on par with a Honda Element.