Yet again, these two German bruisers are at each others’ throats. The BMW M5 and Mercedes-AMG E63 S have been taking each other head-on since the new M5 debuted a few months ago. Since then, it’s been one brutal fight after another, with one beating the other, back and forth. If there’s only one thing we can surmise from all of these comparisons, it’s that both cars are astonishing machines. However, it’s time to take a look at yet another comparison between these two, in this recent drag race and braking test from Carwow.
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The brand-new BMW M5 makes 600 hp and 553 lb-ft of torque from its 4.4 liter twin-turbocharged V8. That engine is paired with an eight-speed ZF-sourced auto and an M-tuned xDrive all-wheel drive system. That all-wheel drive system has three modes; 4WD, 4WD Sport and 2WD. The latter of which turns the car into a rear-wheel drive M5 and keeps it that way until you turn it off. Fun stuff.
On the other side, the Mercedes-AMG E63 S uses a 4.0 liter twin-turbocharged V8 that makes 603 hp and 627 lb-ft of torque. That monstrous V8 is mated to a Mercedes-developed nine-speed automatic and also all-wheel drive. Like the BMW, the AMG’s all-wheel drive system can be switched to rear-wheel drive but only temporarily in a so-called “Drift Mode”. Having said that, it can stat that way for awhile, there’s just a speed limit to it. Also, AMG was the first to come out with such a switchable all-wheel drive system.
Now, for the drag race. It starts off with a standard quarter-mile race, with Carwow’s Mat Watson in the new M5. The first run has the M5 in its “4WD Sport” mode, which is its fastest launching mode. Off the line, the M5 just edges ahead of the AMG, as it’s quicker to launch. However, once both cars hit about 50 mph, the AMG starts to pull ahead and it takes a narrow victory. The M5’s fastest run was 3.3 seconds to 60 mph and 11.4 seconds through the standing quarter-mile. While the AMG’s was 3.2 seconds to 60 mph and 11.2 seconds through the quarter.
Watson decides to put the new M5 in its standard 4WD mode, which isn’t advised for drag racing as that keeps all the electronic nannies on, which hinders its launch. So in that run, the M5 gets demolished and loses by a huge margin.
After that is a braking test from 70 mph to 0. At first, the AMG stopped about a foot shorter than the M5, making it seem like the winner. But upon slow-motion replay review, we can see that the AMG began braking quite a bit too early, so the test was actually inconclusive and the M5 may have actually been the faster stopping car. Either way, both cars can haul their significant mass down quickly.
So there you have it, the Mercedes-AMG E63 S is faster in a straight line in equal conditions. No surprise, really, as that AMG V8 is an absolute masterpiece. The BMW M5’s V8 is excellent and only out-shined by the hand-built brilliance of the AMG’s monster engine.
I’m convinced that something was either not right with the M5 (tires ? not broken in ?), or it wasn’t driven properly (not the right transmission mode ? not hot enough ?).Because not only is the M5 faster on all the other magazines where it has been compared to the E63 S, but this 1/4 mile doesn’t make sense when you compare it to Carwow’s own data.
They’ve tested the E63 S before on several occasions, wether it’s the sedan or the touring it always did 11.2s. They’ve also had the M760Li, tested a couple times and did 11.3s. They’ve also tested the E63 S (Touring) against the M760Li, same thing 11.2 and 11.3 respectively.
So you mean to tell me that according to Carwow, the M5 is not only slower than the E63 S (sedan and touring) but also slower than the M760Li ? This makes no sense at all.
Yea, I think there was a mix up with its launch procedure, to be honest. We’ve seen the M5 do some incredible things if launched correctly. From I understand, launching the M5 properly goes as follows — 4WD Sport, MDM, Sport Automatic, left foot the brake, mash the throttle, revs will hold at around 3,200, the rears will smoke a little in place, dump the brake and go. Car and Driver did it that way and recorded a 2.8 second 0-60 mph time.
I fear that video is going to affect BMW M5 UK sales :(
No, I don’t think so. It is wrong to compare the standard M5 against the S of the E63. Because the M5 Competition, (coming soon),is the right car. Instead Carwow should have compared M5 against the regular E63 without S.
s in only version of AMG e63 in US, which is the all wheel drive version. Wouldn’t be fair to compare rear wheel drive version, apples to apples
I was just quoting what M vice president Dirk Hacker said in an interview.
“M’s engineering vice-president Dirk Hacker shrugged off any deficit the new M5 has to its Mercedes-AMG counterpart with news that a more powerful, even more performance-focussed M5 is just around the corner.
The new, all-wheel drive M5’s twin-turbo 4.4-litre V8 is rated at 441kW and 750Nm. In comparison, Mercedes-AMG’s E 63 S – also all-wheel drive — delivers 450kW and 850Nm from its 4.0-litre biturbo bent eight.
But Hacker says comparing the M5 to the S variant of the E 63 is incorrect.”
Read more.
https://www.motoring.com.au/hotter-bmw-m5-on-the-way-110042/
Nah, the M5 is already more expensive so this makes no sense.
Most M- model cars have always been slower than the Merc equivalents in a straight line, no big deal
B.s.
new m5 won in this race though look https://www.instagram.com/p/BgwdlWeBxUD/?taken-by=mpower_gpower
explain this video then https://www.instagram.com/p/BgwdlWeBxUD/?taken-by=mpower_gpower
How do you explain the above video? who has more credibility?
explain this one then too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz67B038gwA
ultimately I’m saying the M5 has never been as fast as the equivalent E class in a straight line, this time around it seems on par. It will should quicker round a track too!
heres a real world race between m5 and new e63 and m5 was ahead as expected. https://www.instagram.com/p/BgwdlWeBxUD/?taken-by=mpower_gpower
Lmfao… You call that a race? You don’t know what fuel they are on, the weight in each car… you can’t see how benz launched. How come he didn’t film that? LOL? You can’t even see what model the AMG is.
You would trust that but not a drag race conducted and filmed by professionals? Oh boy…
lmao youre just butthurt. m5 won every review and race, merc only one 1 by 0.01 sec LOL and that was the slowest version of the M5 vs the fastest e63. cant wait for comp pack and CS to demolish it even more :)
and I have seen in person an F90 get beat by a E63S…what’s your point? That’s the issue with these forums. You have fanboys post that their car is better, but when it’s beat they just say no and post video from their “fanboy” accounts with their car winning. Of course it’s going to win…why would a “fanboy” account post a video of their car losing?…
The E63 won this review..might have lost another.
And until car and driver posts a video of their car running 2.8 0-60 and the 10 second 1/4, I will not believe it..not after seeing dyno tests of this car.
ive seen the F90 beat the e63s in person too bro
well explain this then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz67B038gwA
m5 wins here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz67B038gwA
I totally agree, this is just not right. The M5 is faster, period. It has been proven by so many magazines, including Carwow themselves!
Imagine though the M5 CP and CS… They will destroy the E63S even more and even in the wrong mode or whatever this was, they will be faster. LOL Can’t wait for those to come out.
Well we all know M5 is faster even Carwow confimed that before.
https://youtu.be/hxsBUkm9vBs
True that. :)
Blue M5 is a ringer car, as M5’s are delivered and dyno and testing is performed, we will see. Seems like early dyno testing shows more power in AMG to wheels. Love them both
So why did M5 just beat M-B in Car and Driver comparison? Another ringer?
Car and Driver used 93 octane in M5, 91 in AMG. Look at data sheet, why would they use different fuel in a turbo comparison?
Manufacturer recommendation?
well heres a customer car beating a E63S. https://www.instagram.com/p/BgwdlWeBxUD/?taken-by=mpower_gpower
So you guys prefer theoretical figures instead of an actual race? :)) The surface was clearly not grippy enough in this test but that seem to affect the Merc more. The M5 launches better then gets laughed at. As for it not being a fair competition… Jesus… The M5 is more expensive in most countries and has a better power/weight ratio than the AMG S. And you are saying they shouldn’t be compared? :)) And btw, Benz is releasing a facelifted E63 with 630ps+ so stop dreaming about the M5 CP :)
The AMG is faster, sounds better, is more comfortable and a lot more luxurious. 4-0
Listen Karl Benz, it’s not quite that clear-cut.
She prefers to be addressed as Mercedes.
Don’t forget homely, video board dash, dull, looks like an E Class, looks like a C Class.
we dont need to dream new m5 already beat the e63 in every drag race except car wow video look here at this race https://www.instagram.com/p/BgwdlWeBxUD/?taken-by=mpower_gpower
ya look normal new M5 beating the e63S in a real world drag i found the video on instagram https://www.instagram.com/p/BgwdlWeBxUD/?taken-by=mpower_gpower
m5 wins in this race :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz67B038gwA
i dont really understand how its slower than a m760. paid sponsorship by merc? or mat just being a merc fanboy? when i first watched the video the launch didnt look right. then i thought maybe the engine hasnt been run in. AND that e63 didnt look like a press car it was an owners car could have been tuned not sure
M5 has beaten the e63s in tests already im still waiting for the top gear uk episode of the new m5 and e63 both will probably have a drag there too. if it wins as it should then i call carwow bs..
heres one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz67B038gwA
also what i did learn is M5 is still faster
M5 V E63 = M5 wins
M5 CP V E63S = M5 wins
but because this was normal m5 vs e63S the merc won but only by 0.1 but being honest here buyers will watch that video and may turn and buy a e63s isntead of the new M5 ive seen it happen in the past before in the UK it just changes peoples opinions :( im not happy im just confused that theres something not right about it lol and ive seen an M5 do a launch before i dont get why the rear was bouncing like crazy?? usually it sticks and has a lil smokey burnout then just flys…and then the M760 thing is bugging me NO WAY would BMW let that car be quicker than the M5 urgh im going to be annoyed now untill i see a drag where the M5 wins if theres more BS ill just wait for comp pack and ill be happy lol i didnt bother commenting on the video merc fans would just attack me lol also ive read on bimmerpost that some say after its first service at 1500 it unlocks the engine to full potiential? or is that fake
So you guys prefer theoretical figures instead of an actual race? :)) The surface was clearly not grippy enough in this test but that seem to affect the Merc more. The M5 launches better then gets laughed at. As for it not being a fair competition… Jesus… The M5 is more expensive in most countries and has a better power/weight ratio than the AMG S. And you are saying they shouldn’t be compared? :)) And btw, Benz is releasing a facelifted E63 with 630ps+ so stop dreaming about the M5 CP :)
The AMG is faster, sounds better, is more comfortable and a lot more luxurious.
here is an actual race of 2 customer M5 E63S drag racing on a normal surface. and the M5 won https://www.instagram.com/p/BgwdlWeBxUD/?taken-by=mpower_gpower
Launch control or tires didn’t worked out.
in C&D comparison they used 91 octane in AMG, 93 in M5, bad test!
watch this kaisuke this is how the carwow video should have been https://www.instagram.com/p/BgwdlWeBxUD/?taken-by=mpower_gpower
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz67B038gwA
The launch control looks really cool, like C&D said the rear tires spin and the car goes like a rocket. Interestingly enough when it is gone the E63 S is not closing the gap, unlike on Carwow where it flies past the m5
in the carwow video does the m5 spin rear tires or did it not happen? i just remember the car bobbing up and down in that video also i checked carwow said the rolling race they did it in comfort mode. and for the launch they didnt have it in manual mode they left it in auto. bmw state for the best launch the car has to be in S3 manual mode, esp off the car will still shift automatically on the first gear but allows you to shift manually on the next gear and matt seemed confused on how to launch the m5 on that video cause he said it was difficult when it wasn’t. but im happy need more races like this to make these amg fanboys sit down and these merc fans forget the fastest e63 model is slower than the slowest m5 model :) cant wait for comp pack and cs too
why are UK press cars running P zero tires i dont get it if it had the michellens it wouldve been fine in each review and much quicker. and i saw customer cars in Uk get delivered with michellens rather than P ZERO. sorry for mispelling michellen cant spell it lol
sometimes press cars are fitted with winter tires that might not be factory-spec. It happens. Journalists can’t control that sort of thing. But, yes, the M5 does come with standard ‘Michelins’ :)
It’s not just UK press cars because on the Sport Auto comparison review the M5 also ran Pirellis. I think i saw on Bimmerpost that some customer cars are fitted with Michelins (the Pilot Sport 4S) and some with Pirellis.
It’s not the first time a BMW runs different sets of tires either, you’d think they’d focus on the most performant one but apparently not.
That’s interesting. Not sure why.
ah i see, i wish they all just came with Pilot Sport 4S im sure the carwow video wouldve been much different lol :P
piece of shit . . .suck it bmw
Did you forget to tell them that the AMG didn’t have carbon ceramic brakes while the M did?
Irrelevant to stopping tests. Carbon ceramics do not help with stopping distance and is irrelevant to one-time stop comparisons.
How is it irrelevant? The ceramics save a few kilograms by the very least.
Yeah, they weigh less but the weight savings do not contribute to a quicker/shorter stopping distance.
Right. Therefore, all braking tests are irrelevant. Because they were originally Brembos after all.
Correct! The tires are the limiting factor in deceleration and acceleration. No one seems to be mentioning that here.
Carwow has always been against Bmw. Check out all of their vids and articles. Not something I would classify as a reputable source
good name
Absolute cheat! Car wow = garbage.
my heart is broken! lost my sleep over this fight! bmw!!!! T_T
its probably just carwow. all other reviews tested it against the e63s and the m5 won the drag. and no way would the m5 be slower than the m760 which car wow tested also.. doesn’t make sense but what i did learn is the m5 is faster than the normal e63 and the m5 comp pack should be faster than the e63s
the e63 s beating the m5 in a straight line is like saying the chiron can beat the agera rs in a straight line and we all know how that ended up.
car wow video is not right because every video i have seen and review the M5 is faster in a straight line im not even lying look at this link video on instagram https://www.instagram.com/p/BgwdlWeBxUD/?taken-by=mpower_gpower
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz67B038gwA
:)
///M POWER
shiit driver
I am BMW fan and I am in shock about this result! How it happened….Really I don’t understand? I don’t even want to mention that I hesitate a bit between both cars and decided to order the M5 as I really thought that it will demolished the Merck. (besides being a bit cheaper and a new model…and my third M5)
WTF I am so annoyed about this results….I refused to believe in it. I am pissed off especially when i read all the stupid comment of those AMG fan.
Don’t worry, this test is bs, something was off. Not sure what. The AMG might have been tuned, perhaps the M5 wasn’t run in, tires not warm, not launched properly,… In every single drag race before this one, the M5 was faster than the E63S which is amazing considering 2 things: the M5 was never about drag racing from a standstill but now it is thanks to the M xDrive and secondly there will be a Competition Package AND an M5 CS coming in the next couple of years.
You will have a lot of fun in your new M5 I am sure of it! Congrats! :D
Thanks for your input Senne and your congrats :)) I am counting days!
Regarding the Competition Package; I postponed my order from May to August in regards to get it.
Today, I got confirmation today about the “CP details” : +25hp; same torque, lower suspension and a bit stiffer. (more track focus) and special exhaust apparently ;)) All in all not so bad just waiting for the final price of this option here. Last but not least, Let’s wait another comparison in HEAD TO HEAD or in UK TOP GEAR and we will see. However I love the philosophy of the M car: Sportier than AMG and more track focused :))
this will make you feel better Senne watch this video on instagram of a real drag between the new M5 and new E63S :) https://www.instagram.com/p/BgwdlWeBxUD/?taken-by=mpower_gpower
So you guys prefer theoretical figures instead of an actual race? :)) The surface was clearly not grippy enough in this test but that seem to affect the Merc more. The M5 launches better then gets laughed at. As for it not being a fair competition… Jesus… The M5 is more expensive in most countries and has a better power/weight ratio than the AMG S. And you are saying they shouldn’t be compared? :))
1) In Europe the MERCK is far expensive with similar option than the M5.
Believe me I did x500 configurations before making my choice and ordering my car.
2) Those two cars should be compared but what everybody is trying to say is that you have two choices of power for each car; which means:
E63 amg = standard M5
E63 s = M5 Comp pack
Correct.
Dude, the M5 is 2k more expensive in GB. What are you talking about? It’s not about names and branding. It’s about choises ofc. At this moment you can chose between two cars in the same price range and with similar power/weight. One year from now you will be able to chose from a faceliftwd e63 amgs with 630ps and an m5 cp which will be more expensive probably. Both now and next year the AMG is the faster choice. That is real life, not theoretical comparisons based on silly car names and branding.
this video will make you feel better the new m5 beating the e63s https://www.instagram.com/p/BgwdlWeBxUD/?taken-by=mpower_gpower
I feel satisfied.
me too :D
I hope we will see soon better vids.
here is a better video brother https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz67B038gwA
Ice breakerr YOU ARE MY IDOL now ;))
I FEEL BETTER!!! YOUHOUUUUUU :))))))
BMW M please a Rematch with a proper M result on AMG. even if both cars are masterpiece in my opinion.
The butthurt is through the roof here. So what E63S is faster than M5 by .1 sec…does it suddenly compell you to come up with excuses for it? I don’t get it.
Because no one else can replicate those results. So don’t call out “butthurt”. Call b.s.
Spoken like a true magazine driver.
So you’ve packed a lot of miles on the new M5, have you?
Typed like a true troll.
All 2 comments.
I drive and produce facts, I’m sorry you are offended by this.
Since u drive a Skoda & produce gas, yes, ur offensive.
thats the problem the E63S is not faster than the M5 and heres proof https://www.instagram.com/p/BgwdlWeBxUD/?taken-by=mpower_gpower
Loool! What a race :)))))) funny bmw fankid
Watson is the shitty driver.
heres a better driver https://www.instagram.com/p/BgwdlWeBxUD/?taken-by=mpower_gpower
Well, Matt is not a professional tester, he did very well in producing fun episodes, but he is not a pro. On power alone, Mercedes does have an edge, since BMW did not introduce a new engine but instead use a Sport Tune 4.4 older V8, it does seem that they are behind. However, power is not the most important here, its the overall package, everyone tested it, and BMW excels. I wonder what they will accomplish when they introduce the Competition Package, and don’t forget this AMG Mercedes tested here is not standard AMG, its the S version, so even if it tops the standard M5, its nothing special.
Isn’t AMG’s V8 years old?
Again, it is wrong to compare the regular M5 with only 750 Nm against the E63S with 850 Nm, because the M5 competition package will be the right car.
So you guys prefer theoretical figures instead of an actual race? :)) The surface was clearly not grippy enough in this test but that seem to affect the Merc more. The M5 launches better then gets laughed at. As for it not being a fair competition… Jesus… The M5 is more expensive in most countries and has a better power/weight ratio than the AMG S. And you are saying they shouldn’t be compared? :)) And btw, Benz is releasing a facelifted E63 with 630ps+ so stop dreaming about the M5 CP :)
The AMG is faster, sounds better, is more comfortable and a lot more luxurious. Torque shouldn’t make up for 150kg… And anyway, they have the larger engine. Shame on them for not making it pump out more torque.
Copy paste much MB Salesman?
Stalk much, BMW fanboy?
Have a life outside MB and the internet much?
merc is just a boring taxi company in the UK nothing special even my local milktruck delivery van is a crappy merc lmaoooo
Copy wretch.
Laurentiu, First of all, you are on a BMW blog.
Secondly, Everybody has different tastes. The merck might look more luxury in your eyes; but not everybody is a fan of full digital dash or other gimmick inside the E class.
Besides I can say that I hesitated a lot before ordering the new M5 over the E63s but its not only about figures. It’s about own preferences. Those two car are incredible anyway.
Last info for you, the BMW is slightly more confortable than the Merck. (its the 1st time)
Answered before^^ and Merc E63S is in germany a little bit more expensive than M5.
AH OK?? I didn’t expect that… Looks like each country has a different price point obviously!
Just realized that I read wrong your comment sorry. So yes its the same in FRANCE
Laurentiu We responded to you already. Besides I don’t understand why you are on this BMW forum to constantly criticizing the M5? By the way, have you ever owned any of those 2 cars, coz you seems pretty a “Connaisseur” . Send us your registration copy of your E63 s and we will show you some respect. If not stop to interfere in this forum; its annoying.
And predictable. Don’t know if there are multiples or just different names.
yes it is wrong but the reason most are shocked is cause the standard M5 has beat the S in many tests ill link you to a video of the M5 beating the E63S as it should be it will make you happy :) here https://www.instagram.com/p/BgwdlWeBxUD/?taken-by=mpower_gpower
NEW VIDEO OF THE M5 BEATING THE E63S https://www.instagram.com/p/BgwdlWeBxUD/?taken-by=mpower_gpower
J adore !!!! :))) More of that please ;)
if i find anymore i will send to you :) the standard M5 is 100% faster than E63 and E63S. just that carwow video is wrong. every review/video I have seen the M5 has won and is faster, so that means the M5 comp pack and CS will demolish the merc even more :)
here is another race of the m5 winning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz67B038gwA
Pathetic to say the least. Even the worst BMW fanatic wouldn’t call that a race. But hey, good for you. The M5 won! Yeeeey! =)))))
aww you seem butthurt lol
well heres another head to head and the M5 won. cry more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz67B038gwA
https://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2018-bmw-m5-vs-cadillac-cts-v-mercedes-amg-e63-s-porsche-panamera-turbo-comparison-test
I would go either way.
fine! we admit. we accept defeat. moving on!
The E63 is still the KING, want it or not, BMW fans! BMW tried hard over years to make the M5 better, but instead it just came close but not even on par. SHAME!