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		<title>By: Opposite Lock: M Diesels Take the Stage &#124; Digest about Car&#039;s news</title>
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		<dc:creator>Opposite Lock: M Diesels Take the Stage &#124; Digest about Car&#039;s news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we’re jumping on a band wagon? Think again – we published this article over two years ago, advocating for an M diesel based on the incredible performance BMW have been [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Opposite Lock: M Diesels Take the Stage &#124; BMW TV</title>
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		<dc:creator>Opposite Lock: M Diesels Take the Stage &#124; BMW TV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we’re jumping on a band wagon? Think again – we published this article over two years ago, advocating for an M diesel based on the incredible performance BMW have been [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Opposite Lock: M Diesels Take the Stage &#124; labmw.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Opposite Lock: M Diesels Take the Stage &#124; labmw.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we&#8217;re jumping on a band wagon? Think again &#8211; we published this article over two years ago, advocating for an M diesel based on the incredible performance BMW have been [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Opposite Lock: M Diesels Take the Stage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Opposite Lock: M Diesels Take the Stage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we&#8217;re jumping on a band wagon? Think again &#8211; we published this article over two years ago, advocating for an M diesel based on the incredible performance BMW have been [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bmw Twin Aircraft Engine &#124; BMW Photos Blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi All,

Just read the article and the comments posted, well what can I say its a very good article and I do acknowledge the comments of those petrol v8/v10 sound tracks. But I can tell you by the experiance of owning a 535d 272bhp msport.  This diedel car is amazing, I have owned her now for 4 years and I still love the experiance of driving her.  One thing the BMW diesel engines have over most petrol is the scope to increase performance for little expence.

I have the blufin remap from superchips that increases bhp to 340 and give over 500 ft of torque, add the k&amp;n airfilter and its pushing close to 350bhp, fuel enconomy is better, I get over 40 mpg to the gallon on a decent run. She excelerates 0 to 60 in 5.1 seconds and tops out at 174mph, and getting there doesnt take long.  The power is relentless and smooth, and if the roads are wet the traction stability lights come on at over a 100mph as the power being delivered is so vast, thus it only being available in the auto as the manual gearbox would just get ripped to pieces.

I agree its not an M5, but your lucky to see 16mpg in one of these and if you look at the states for every day driving you cant get much better for your pound. I know ive mentioned the performance states here quite a bit, but mostly this drives so smooth and is the best day to day car ive owned, and remeber this isnt a super car and can carry 5 people in comfort.  The other thing, she has done nearly 90,000 miles and hasnt missed a beat, and oil changes come around every 19,000 making it a lot cheaper than most petrols during your ownership.

Anyway, sorry for the large post - but I thought I would share my experiance with you as this is an amazing engine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>Just read the article and the comments posted, well what can I say its a very good article and I do acknowledge the comments of those petrol v8/v10 sound tracks. But I can tell you by the experiance of owning a 535d 272bhp msport.  This diedel car is amazing, I have owned her now for 4 years and I still love the experiance of driving her.  One thing the BMW diesel engines have over most petrol is the scope to increase performance for little expence.</p>
<p>I have the blufin remap from superchips that increases bhp to 340 and give over 500 ft of torque, add the k&amp;n airfilter and its pushing close to 350bhp, fuel enconomy is better, I get over 40 mpg to the gallon on a decent run. She excelerates 0 to 60 in 5.1 seconds and tops out at 174mph, and getting there doesnt take long.  The power is relentless and smooth, and if the roads are wet the traction stability lights come on at over a 100mph as the power being delivered is so vast, thus it only being available in the auto as the manual gearbox would just get ripped to pieces.</p>
<p>I agree its not an M5, but your lucky to see 16mpg in one of these and if you look at the states for every day driving you cant get much better for your pound. I know ive mentioned the performance states here quite a bit, but mostly this drives so smooth and is the best day to day car ive owned, and remeber this isnt a super car and can carry 5 people in comfort.  The other thing, she has done nearly 90,000 miles and hasnt missed a beat, and oil changes come around every 19,000 making it a lot cheaper than most petrols during your ownership.</p>
<p>Anyway, sorry for the large post &#8211; but I thought I would share my experiance with you as this is an amazing engine.</p>
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		<title>By: First Drive: 2011 BMW 5 Series</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 16:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] diesels and BMW leads the way. For a more in-depth look at BMW Diesel engine design, check out our Diesel Editorial found here. To be sure, the 5 series Diesel will be a brilliant car for North American buyers (they just [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 08:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a BMW 123d Coupe and it is amazing. So much torque I can easily wheelspin in 1st and 2nd gear. If the roads are damp it will even wheelspin in 3rd if I put my foot down a bit hard. Keeps the traction control busy.

And this twin turbo diesel has a great engine note. As it approaches the redline of around 6k it seriously sounds like a rorty 4 cylinder petrol. It&#039;s amazing fun to drive fast on twisty roads.

And I&#039;m averaging under 6l/100km... (over 40MPG)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a BMW 123d Coupe and it is amazing. So much torque I can easily wheelspin in 1st and 2nd gear. If the roads are damp it will even wheelspin in 3rd if I put my foot down a bit hard. Keeps the traction control busy.</p>
<p>And this twin turbo diesel has a great engine note. As it approaches the redline of around 6k it seriously sounds like a rorty 4 cylinder petrol. It&#8217;s amazing fun to drive fast on twisty roads.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m averaging under 6l/100km&#8230; (over 40MPG)</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/01/07/column-spark-plugs-who-needs-them/#comment-182407</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 06:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just digging at whether it was actually a question of gearing, since they don&#039;t make a 7 or 8 speed manual.   35mpg is good but not spectacular (like the 4-cyl diesels), so they may not have wanted to undermine that (or performance) with a 6-speed.

The torque might be too much, but did they really not have a more robust MT available?  Does BMW make, procure (OTS) or outsource their transmissions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just digging at whether it was actually a question of gearing, since they don&#8217;t make a 7 or 8 speed manual.   35mpg is good but not spectacular (like the 4-cyl diesels), so they may not have wanted to undermine that (or performance) with a 6-speed.</p>
<p>The torque might be too much, but did they really not have a more robust MT available?  Does BMW make, procure (OTS) or outsource their transmissions?</p>
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		<title>By: atr_hugo</title>
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		<dc:creator>atr_hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aluminum and diesel fuel coexist AFAIK (and marine applications store diesel fuel in aluminum tanks, WIW) - big problem is strength and most manufacturers defaulted to iron alloys to solve that problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aluminum and diesel fuel coexist AFAIK (and marine applications store diesel fuel in aluminum tanks, WIW) &#8211; big problem is strength and most manufacturers defaulted to iron alloys to solve that problem.</p>
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		<title>By: atr_hugo</title>
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		<dc:creator>atr_hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Shawn!

If youse guys haven&#039;t driven a 335d, lean on your CA and beg a drive. Other than a bit more vibration at idle, this will be hard to distinguish from a gas inline 6. Granted the thing shifts at 4200, but around town (or at cruising speed) it is as effective as a gas motor. And if it&#039;s to be a highway car, this thing has extremely LONG legs (~ 580 mile range per tank).

A couple of caveats, diesels don&#039;t employ throttles so there is no engine braking to speak of (and the BMW diesels don&#039;t use &#039;Jake Brakes&#039; ;-). Also, RPM is limited to the burn rate of the fuel. Diesel is slower to burn than modern gasoline; even the LeMans Audis max out around 5K RPM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Shawn!</p>
<p>If youse guys haven&#8217;t driven a 335d, lean on your CA and beg a drive. Other than a bit more vibration at idle, this will be hard to distinguish from a gas inline 6. Granted the thing shifts at 4200, but around town (or at cruising speed) it is as effective as a gas motor. And if it&#8217;s to be a highway car, this thing has extremely LONG legs (~ 580 mile range per tank).</p>
<p>A couple of caveats, diesels don&#8217;t employ throttles so there is no engine braking to speak of (and the BMW diesels don&#8217;t use &#8216;Jake Brakes&#8217; ;-). Also, RPM is limited to the burn rate of the fuel. Diesel is slower to burn than modern gasoline; even the LeMans Audis max out around 5K RPM.</p>
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		<title>By: Blaze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Article.

Just one question...I had the (may be incorrect) impression that they couldn&#039;t use Aluminum in diesel engines because the diesel was corrosive to the aluminum, that&#039;s why they used steel all these years.  Is that impression incorrect, or has BMW made some developments with their alloys?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Article.</p>
<p>Just one question&#8230;I had the (may be incorrect) impression that they couldn&#8217;t use Aluminum in diesel engines because the diesel was corrosive to the aluminum, that&#8217;s why they used steel all these years.  Is that impression incorrect, or has BMW made some developments with their alloys?</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Phillippe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Phillippe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 20:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BMW doesn&#039;t have a manual gearbox that can handle the torque of that particular diesel engine. It&#039;s not so much about the peak output, but how it&#039;s applied as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BMW doesn&#8217;t have a manual gearbox that can handle the torque of that particular diesel engine. It&#8217;s not so much about the peak output, but how it&#8217;s applied as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Phillippe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Phillippe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re already doing that on hybrids.</description>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/01/07/column-spark-plugs-who-needs-them/#comment-182294</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did they offer a 6-speed auto on the diesel, or just a 7/8 speed auto?   Maybe the limited RPM range needs more gearing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did they offer a 6-speed auto on the diesel, or just a 7/8 speed auto?   Maybe the limited RPM range needs more gearing.</p>
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		<title>By: DougC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DougC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I considered a diesel briefly last spring when I bought my 335i, but the deal-breaker was the lack of manual transmission option. No one at BMW I asked knew why. My guess was that the extra low-end torque would be too much for a clutch. Any other ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I considered a diesel briefly last spring when I bought my 335i, but the deal-breaker was the lack of manual transmission option. No one at BMW I asked knew why. My guess was that the extra low-end torque would be too much for a clutch. Any other ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/01/07/column-spark-plugs-who-needs-them/#comment-182280</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I drove a 535d for two weeks across Germany/Austria on vacation last year. I came back SOLD on diesel performance!  I must say that I&#039;ve been disappointed with BMW&#039;s marketing of this engine in America; they&#039;ve really kept it under the radar. However, potential buyers need to give this engine a try........  they will be amazed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I drove a 535d for two weeks across Germany/Austria on vacation last year. I came back SOLD on diesel performance!  I must say that I&#8217;ve been disappointed with BMW&#8217;s marketing of this engine in America; they&#8217;ve really kept it under the radar. However, potential buyers need to give this engine a try&#8230;&#8230;..  they will be amazed!</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/01/07/column-spark-plugs-who-needs-them/#comment-182261</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cars will soon be so quite they will have to produce their own artificial sounds to make driving excating again  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cars will soon be so quite they will have to produce their own artificial sounds to make driving excating again  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Horatiu B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horatiu B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shawn, great article. :) Enough said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shawn, great article. :) Enough said.</p>
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		<title>By: Pavel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pavel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too like very much BMW petrol engines. However, I have driven the new 530d GT and I have to admit that the new engine and transmission is brilliant. I have driven many diesel cars where owners said &quot;you almost do not recognize it&#039;s not diesel&quot;. There always was that &quot;almost&quot;... But not THIS time. This engine had me converted...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too like very much BMW petrol engines. However, I have driven the new 530d GT and I have to admit that the new engine and transmission is brilliant. I have driven many diesel cars where owners said &#8220;you almost do not recognize it&#8217;s not diesel&#8221;. There always was that &#8220;almost&#8221;&#8230; But not THIS time. This engine had me converted&#8230;</p>
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