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	<title>Comments on: BMW M3&#8217;s 3.2-liter straight six engine comes to an end</title>
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		<title>By: Mike S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good night, sweet prince.  May you live on in the hearts of bimmerphiles everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good night, sweet prince.  May you live on in the hearts of bimmerphiles everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 16:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*sniffle*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*sniffle*</p>
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		<title>By: Horatiu B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horatiu B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 02:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-81634&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Doug&lt;/a&gt;: Wikipedia is not always right..but yes, there are many rumors that the turbo engines will power the M models.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-81634" rel="nofollow">Doug</a>: Wikipedia is not always right..but yes, there are many rumors that the turbo engines will power the M models.</p>
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		<title>By: Auday</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/12/31/bmw-m3s-32-liter-straight-six-engine-comes-to-an-end/comment-page-1/#comment-81776</link>
		<dc:creator>Auday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 01:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Doug

I dont know where this article got that idea from? the S54 is officially replaced with the S65, the N54 is replaced the M54 as a non-M engine. Untill we officially know what the new MZ4 will have, we can&#039;t say anything about the Tubro engines replacing M engines. 

Happy new year everyone, time to get ready to be drunk!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Doug</p>
<p>I dont know where this article got that idea from? the S54 is officially replaced with the S65, the N54 is replaced the M54 as a non-M engine. Untill we officially know what the new MZ4 will have, we can&#8217;t say anything about the Tubro engines replacing M engines. </p>
<p>Happy new year everyone, time to get ready to be drunk!</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting... from wikipedia:  

&quot;BMW decided to retire the S54 and replace it with the twin-turbo N54. The engine will be remembered as the last high rev natural aspirated Inline-6.[3]&quot;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M54#S54B32
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http://www.motorauthority.com/bmw-retires-the-z4-ms-straight-six-engine.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8230; from wikipedia:  </p>
<p>&#8220;BMW decided to retire the S54 and replace it with the twin-turbo N54. The engine will be remembered as the last high rev natural aspirated Inline-6.[3]&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M54#S54B32" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M54#S54B32</a><br />
referencing<br />
<a href="http://www.motorauthority.com/bmw-retires-the-z4-ms-straight-six-engine.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.motorauthority.com/bmw-retires-the-z4-ms-straight-six-engine.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gragop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gragop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-81593&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Auday&lt;/a&gt;: 

Thank you, that&#039;s what I was trying to say but couldn&#039;t spit it out. I knew that Valvetronic somewhat limited the engines in terms of performance but did return higher MPG.

A good example was the E90 320Si&#039;s 4-cylinder developed for racing. The 4 banger didn&#039;t come with Valvetronic like the standard 320i&#039;s 4-cylinder thus the engine revved high but wasn&#039;t nearly as efficient as it&#039;s VVT brethren.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-81593" rel="nofollow">Auday</a>: </p>
<p>Thank you, that&#8217;s what I was trying to say but couldn&#8217;t spit it out. I knew that Valvetronic somewhat limited the engines in terms of performance but did return higher MPG.</p>
<p>A good example was the E90 320Si&#8217;s 4-cylinder developed for racing. The 4 banger didn&#8217;t come with Valvetronic like the standard 320i&#8217;s 4-cylinder thus the engine revved high but wasn&#8217;t nearly as efficient as it&#8217;s VVT brethren.</p>
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		<title>By: Auday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Auday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Doug

I think the reason for not having ValveTronic in M engines is the high RPM. The adjustable valves can&#039;t Rev to 8k rpm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Doug</p>
<p>I think the reason for not having ValveTronic in M engines is the high RPM. The adjustable valves can&#8217;t Rev to 8k rpm.</p>
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		<title>By: Auday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Auday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matski
The S65 is lighter because it&#039;s newer, thats why I said they should have a &quot;lighter and faster&quot; version of the S54 that&#039;s build with the same technology and materials of the S65 and revvs to the same RPM. I&#039;m thinking  something  like S56 that is 30kg to 40kg lighter than the S54 and revvs to 8900rpm. 
The 507 is more like a luxury cruiser and is comparable to the Z8, the Z4 is an agile trackable car, so having an I6 in it makes more sense to me. 
Anyway, either engines are good as long as they stay away from the damn Turbos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matski<br />
The S65 is lighter because it&#8217;s newer, thats why I said they should have a &#8220;lighter and faster&#8221; version of the S54 that&#8217;s build with the same technology and materials of the S65 and revvs to the same RPM. I&#8217;m thinking  something  like S56 that is 30kg to 40kg lighter than the S54 and revvs to 8900rpm.<br />
The 507 is more like a luxury cruiser and is comparable to the Z8, the Z4 is an agile trackable car, so having an I6 in it makes more sense to me.<br />
Anyway, either engines are good as long as they stay away from the damn Turbos.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-81574&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gragop&lt;/a&gt;: 

Well, valvetronic is bmw&#039;s VVT, right?   I&#039;d think that it would be useful for optimizing intake on any engine,  esp naturally-aspirated ones (per Al&#039;s recent engine posts).

Valvetronic also seems like it&#039;s somewhat independent of other engine components, so they could easily remove it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-81574" rel="nofollow">Gragop</a>: </p>
<p>Well, valvetronic is bmw&#8217;s VVT, right?   I&#8217;d think that it would be useful for optimizing intake on any engine,  esp naturally-aspirated ones (per Al&#8217;s recent engine posts).</p>
<p>Valvetronic also seems like it&#8217;s somewhat independent of other engine components, so they could easily remove it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gragop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gragop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-81564&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Doug&lt;/a&gt;: 

Does the N54 have valvetronic too? If not, it may be a candidate. I think M engines have problems when trying to run valvetronic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-81564" rel="nofollow">Doug</a>: </p>
<p>Does the N54 have valvetronic too? If not, it may be a candidate. I think M engines have problems when trying to run valvetronic.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad, very sad.

Surely the next M3 won&#039;t have a V8 and will be turbocharged.   I had assumed they&#039;d have a forced-induction version of the S54 (TT 3.2), and not reconfigure an existing engine like the N54.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad, very sad.</p>
<p>Surely the next M3 won&#8217;t have a V8 and will be turbocharged.   I had assumed they&#8217;d have a forced-induction version of the S54 (TT 3.2), and not reconfigure an existing engine like the N54.</p>
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		<title>By: Volan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Volan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A toast to one of the greatest engines to be remembered</description>
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		<title>By: The Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a sad, sad day.  Out of every engine I&#039;ve ever owned, from 400+ cubic inch American V8s to the little 1.6L inline 4 in my first-gen MR2, the S54 was my favorite.  The only engine that came close was the 1L V-twin Rotax in my Aprilia.

I like the power of the S65.  I like the fact that they kept it high-revving and lightweight.  I hate the fact that the S54 has to be sacrificed, though.  I think I just died a little bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a sad, sad day.  Out of every engine I&#8217;ve ever owned, from 400+ cubic inch American V8s to the little 1.6L inline 4 in my first-gen MR2, the S54 was my favorite.  The only engine that came close was the 1L V-twin Rotax in my Aprilia.</p>
<p>I like the power of the S65.  I like the fact that they kept it high-revving and lightweight.  I hate the fact that the S54 has to be sacrificed, though.  I think I just died a little bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Gragop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gragop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well this is a goddamn depressing thing to wake up to this morning.</description>
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		<title>By: gunther</title>
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		<dc:creator>gunther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have now a Z4 M ,but I hope the new Z4 M 2010/2011 will be with
the V8 .But I think is gone be something like tke 335i but upgrade</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have now a Z4 M ,but I hope the new Z4 M 2010/2011 will be with<br />
the V8 .But I think is gone be something like tke 335i but upgrade</p>
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		<title>By: Matski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-81398&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Auday&lt;/a&gt;: 

I agreed that M should develop a &#039;smaller than a V8&#039; engine.. but for application in the 1 series.  The Z4 has the space for it I&#039;m sure, and  lets not forget that the S65 V8 is 15kg lighter than the S54 I6!, for reasons of weight alone it might make sense to go for the V8!  And lets not forget, the 507 that the Z4 is so similar in style too, was a V8.

Shame to see this engine go though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-81398" rel="nofollow">Auday</a>: </p>
<p>I agreed that M should develop a &#8217;smaller than a V8&#8242; engine.. but for application in the 1 series.  The Z4 has the space for it I&#8217;m sure, and  lets not forget that the S65 V8 is 15kg lighter than the S54 I6!, for reasons of weight alone it might make sense to go for the V8!  And lets not forget, the 507 that the Z4 is so similar in style too, was a V8.</p>
<p>Shame to see this engine go though.</p>
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		<title>By: Auday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Auday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The I6 is the first and the core of M-Sport division since the M88 of the M1. 6 independent throttle bodies, high oil pressure and high revving are all great characteristics of the I6 M engines from the M88 to the S54.

The M-Powered V8 and V10 are great, but the I6 is the core of the M division and to be honest I hope the new MZ4 would come with a lighter and faster version of that great engine instead of the V8.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The I6 is the first and the core of M-Sport division since the M88 of the M1. 6 independent throttle bodies, high oil pressure and high revving are all great characteristics of the I6 M engines from the M88 to the S54.</p>
<p>The M-Powered V8 and V10 are great, but the I6 is the core of the M division and to be honest I hope the new MZ4 would come with a lighter and faster version of that great engine instead of the V8.</p>
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