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	<title>Comments on: More information on Chris Bangle&#8217;s resignation</title>
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		<title>By: URAGANU</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/02/03/more-information-on-chris-bangles-resignation/#comment-95377</link>
		<dc:creator>URAGANU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 06:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God he&#039;s leaving. BMW had the worst Era since this guy joined the Design team. Thank God  he&#039;s out. I only hope BMW to get back to original design forms that made us all to love them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God he&#8217;s leaving. BMW had the worst Era since this guy joined the Design team. Thank God  he&#8217;s out. I only hope BMW to get back to original design forms that made us all to love them.</p>
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		<title>By: Horatiu B.</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/02/03/more-information-on-chris-bangles-resignation/#comment-94791</link>
		<dc:creator>Horatiu B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 23:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bottom line is that Mr. Bangle did a great job at BMW, despite all the criticism from media and consumers. He built a great team around him and inspired many people, within BMW and outside.

For that, we can only thank him and wish him good luck in his next adventure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bottom line is that Mr. Bangle did a great job at BMW, despite all the criticism from media and consumers. He built a great team around him and inspired many people, within BMW and outside.</p>
<p>For that, we can only thank him and wish him good luck in his next adventure.</p>
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		<title>By: The Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/02/03/more-information-on-chris-bangles-resignation/#comment-94249</link>
		<dc:creator>The Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 13:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-94187&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Giom&lt;/a&gt;: 
Yes, there has always been a general theme to decades of automotive production.  I&#039;ll give you that.  To this day, I still have an extremely difficult time telling old muscle cars apart from eachother (I&#039;m probably the only person in Texas that has this problem).

There are two types of designs: proactive and reactive.  Some companies (I include BMW in this category) create new designs before they become trendy.  Others pick apart those designs like vultures and apply various traits from various other brands to their own cars (reactive car design).  

BMW, at the moment, is sitting at a point where they have to choose whether they&#039;ll continue to be proactive or whether they&#039;ll stick with the general Bangle design philosophy and stagnate to the point where they&#039;ll have to play catch-up later on.

Think about it like a relay race.  The competition is closing in; will AVH take the baton from Bangle and haul ass to put more distance between himself and the rest of the pack, or will he continue on the pace of Bangle and eventually allow the others to catch up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-94187" rel="nofollow">Giom</a>:<br />
Yes, there has always been a general theme to decades of automotive production.  I&#8217;ll give you that.  To this day, I still have an extremely difficult time telling old muscle cars apart from eachother (I&#8217;m probably the only person in Texas that has this problem).</p>
<p>There are two types of designs: proactive and reactive.  Some companies (I include BMW in this category) create new designs before they become trendy.  Others pick apart those designs like vultures and apply various traits from various other brands to their own cars (reactive car design).  </p>
<p>BMW, at the moment, is sitting at a point where they have to choose whether they&#8217;ll continue to be proactive or whether they&#8217;ll stick with the general Bangle design philosophy and stagnate to the point where they&#8217;ll have to play catch-up later on.</p>
<p>Think about it like a relay race.  The competition is closing in; will AVH take the baton from Bangle and haul ass to put more distance between himself and the rest of the pack, or will he continue on the pace of Bangle and eventually allow the others to catch up?</p>
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		<title>By: Vladimir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vladimir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giom:
yust look at this two cars:
http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/01/16/bmw-rz-m6-based-on-m1-hommage/
i didnt say that next 3 ser should be identical to e30,no no but it would be nice to look like e30,yust like these two concepts ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giom:<br />
yust look at this two cars:<br />
<a href="http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/01/16/bmw-rz-m6-based-on-m1-hommage/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/01/16/bmw-rz-m6-based-on-m1-hommage/</a><br />
i didnt say that next 3 ser should be identical to e30,no no but it would be nice to look like e30,yust like these two concepts ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Giom</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/02/03/more-information-on-chris-bangles-resignation/#comment-94217</link>
		<dc:creator>Giom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 11:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-94215&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vladimir&lt;/a&gt;: 

Thats a strange thing to say Vlad. Is it not in a companys best interest to go foreward? What if they decided that in the 30 cars will always look like that. Would you have cars looking like 30s design right now? Do you not like the new Z4? Should it have looked like the 328? To me thats backward thinking.

Look at Britten. They lost all their car brands because of this thinking. They said, &quot;If it aint broken, why fix it.&quot; Thats how you stay behind. Thats how you loose your edge. The Germans in contrast, are always striving for something better. BMW got a think tank division that through away a third of all their ideas into the bin. Only a third makes it into production. If it wasn&#039;t for their willingness to try new stuff, we wouldn&#039;t have ABS or DSC or PDC... heck, even the fuel guage came later.

The same applies to design. If you don&#039;t come up with something fresh and new (Jaguar in the 80s for one example), some one else will and take that share of the pie.

If you ask me why I like BMW, this is one of the very good reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-94215" rel="nofollow">Vladimir</a>: </p>
<p>Thats a strange thing to say Vlad. Is it not in a companys best interest to go foreward? What if they decided that in the 30 cars will always look like that. Would you have cars looking like 30s design right now? Do you not like the new Z4? Should it have looked like the 328? To me thats backward thinking.</p>
<p>Look at Britten. They lost all their car brands because of this thinking. They said, &#8220;If it aint broken, why fix it.&#8221; Thats how you stay behind. Thats how you loose your edge. The Germans in contrast, are always striving for something better. BMW got a think tank division that through away a third of all their ideas into the bin. Only a third makes it into production. If it wasn&#8217;t for their willingness to try new stuff, we wouldn&#8217;t have ABS or DSC or PDC&#8230; heck, even the fuel guage came later.</p>
<p>The same applies to design. If you don&#8217;t come up with something fresh and new (Jaguar in the 80s for one example), some one else will and take that share of the pie.</p>
<p>If you ask me why I like BMW, this is one of the very good reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Vladimir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vladimir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 11:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to god!!!
Finaly bmw can introduce retro design :)(yust like americans do with mustang,camaro and charger)
imagine next 3 ser been styled to loook like e30 :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to god!!!<br />
Finaly bmw can introduce retro design :)(yust like americans do with mustang,camaro and charger)<br />
imagine next 3 ser been styled to loook like e30 :)</p>
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		<title>By: Giom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-94101&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Lee&lt;/a&gt;: 

Didn&#039;t all cars in the 60s look alike? The 70s were even more cloned. The 80s brought a new sence of adventure to the automotive design industry -think Ford Sierra. How different was the Sierra to say the Aston Lagonda of that time. You can tell a 90s design apart from a 00 design, and now 2010 is apon us.

I think BMW design has a lot to do with the shape of the modern car. And I&#039;m fully hopfull that the post Bangle era cars will continue to set this tone.

As I mentioned before... BMW hired Bangle, they will head the company in the right direction again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-94101" rel="nofollow">The Lee</a>: </p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t all cars in the 60s look alike? The 70s were even more cloned. The 80s brought a new sence of adventure to the automotive design industry -think Ford Sierra. How different was the Sierra to say the Aston Lagonda of that time. You can tell a 90s design apart from a 00 design, and now 2010 is apon us.</p>
<p>I think BMW design has a lot to do with the shape of the modern car. And I&#8217;m fully hopfull that the post Bangle era cars will continue to set this tone.</p>
<p>As I mentioned before&#8230; BMW hired Bangle, they will head the company in the right direction again.</p>
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		<title>By: Abqhudson</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/02/03/more-information-on-chris-bangles-resignation/#comment-94173</link>
		<dc:creator>Abqhudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 04:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info.</p>
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		<title>By: Horatiu B.</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/02/03/more-information-on-chris-bangles-resignation/#comment-94152</link>
		<dc:creator>Horatiu B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 02:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-94117&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Abqhudson&lt;/a&gt;: Here is an article on it: http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/03/18/bmw-considering-a-fourth-brand-project-i/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-94117" rel="nofollow">Abqhudson</a>: Here is an article on it: <a href="http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/03/18/bmw-considering-a-fourth-brand-project-i/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/03/18/bmw-considering-a-fourth-brand-project-i/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Abqhudson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abqhudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 00:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is Project i????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is Project i????</p>
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		<title>By: Gragop</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/02/03/more-information-on-chris-bangles-resignation/#comment-94112</link>
		<dc:creator>Gragop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 00:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-94101&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Lee&lt;/a&gt;:   intend to beat my grand kids with a cain if they touch my 2055 BMW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-94101" rel="nofollow">The Lee</a>:   intend to beat my grand kids with a cain if they touch my 2055 BMW.</p>
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		<title>By: The Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-94100&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gragop&lt;/a&gt;: 
Everything&#039;s cyclical, Gragop.  Sooner or later, a day will come when we will get our modernized e38s and e39s.  It&#039;ll likely be when we&#039;re on our death beds, but the day will one day arrive.  Then we&#039;ll be able to tell our grand children &quot;I remember the day when they actually designed cars that looked &lt;i&gt;like cars&lt;/i&gt;, instead of these stupid bubbles with wheels you kids are driving these days,&quot; while shaking our fists in the air out of frustration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-94100" rel="nofollow">Gragop</a>:<br />
Everything&#8217;s cyclical, Gragop.  Sooner or later, a day will come when we will get our modernized e38s and e39s.  It&#8217;ll likely be when we&#8217;re on our death beds, but the day will one day arrive.  Then we&#8217;ll be able to tell our grand children &#8220;I remember the day when they actually designed cars that looked <i>like cars</i>, instead of these stupid bubbles with wheels you kids are driving these days,&#8221; while shaking our fists in the air out of frustration.</p>
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		<title>By: Gragop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gragop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-94091&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Lee&lt;/a&gt;: 

Hell with it. Please go back and make more E39 M5&#039;s and E38 740&#039;s please. That&#039;s my personal hey day for BMW...I want them to start retrogressing versus progressing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-94091" rel="nofollow">The Lee</a>: </p>
<p>Hell with it. Please go back and make more E39 M5&#8242;s and E38 740&#8242;s please. That&#8217;s my personal hey day for BMW&#8230;I want them to start retrogressing versus progressing.</p>
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		<title>By: Auday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Auday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>regardless of how irrational this sounds, but for me it&#039;s a dream came true! 
I&#039;ve been waiting for this moment since I lost my appetite that morning when I saw the E65.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>regardless of how irrational this sounds, but for me it&#8217;s a dream came true!<br />
I&#8217;ve been waiting for this moment since I lost my appetite that morning when I saw the E65.</p>
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		<title>By: The Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-94088&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gragop&lt;/a&gt;: 

I think this line shows exactly my point: &quot;...especially with Bangle asses showing up on many competitor’s cars...&quot;

The moment the competition catches up is exactly the moment that you must put even more effort to move back ahead, lest you fall behind and become yet another car company that&#039;s struggling to simply &quot;keep up&quot;.

To me, it&#039;s the perfect opportunity to move BMW in a completely new direction.  Will you get some opposition?  Absolutely.  You&#039;re going to get opposition regardless of what you do, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-94088" rel="nofollow">Gragop</a>: </p>
<p>I think this line shows exactly my point: &#8220;&#8230;especially with Bangle asses showing up on many competitor’s cars&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The moment the competition catches up is exactly the moment that you must put even more effort to move back ahead, lest you fall behind and become yet another car company that&#8217;s struggling to simply &#8220;keep up&#8221;.</p>
<p>To me, it&#8217;s the perfect opportunity to move BMW in a completely new direction.  Will you get some opposition?  Absolutely.  You&#8217;re going to get opposition regardless of what you do, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Gragop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gragop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-94086&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Lee&lt;/a&gt;: 

Yeah, but to play devil&#039;s advocate, do we want to go in an entirely different direction? Look at the outcry in 2002 with the introduction of the E65. Granted, it was a success, I think I saw far more E65s than I ever did E38&#039;s(thank you leasing!). 

After all, BMW switched gears to the Bangle styling as a result of the fear that their line-up would become &quot;same sausage, different links&quot; styled. So I can see why BMW may follow suit once more and begin to head in a new direction, especially with Bangle asses showing up on many competitor&#039;s cars and flame surfacing becoming popular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-94086" rel="nofollow">The Lee</a>: </p>
<p>Yeah, but to play devil&#8217;s advocate, do we want to go in an entirely different direction? Look at the outcry in 2002 with the introduction of the E65. Granted, it was a success, I think I saw far more E65s than I ever did E38&#8242;s(thank you leasing!). </p>
<p>After all, BMW switched gears to the Bangle styling as a result of the fear that their line-up would become &#8220;same sausage, different links&#8221; styled. So I can see why BMW may follow suit once more and begin to head in a new direction, especially with Bangle asses showing up on many competitor&#8217;s cars and flame surfacing becoming popular.</p>
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		<title>By: The Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My only concern is that they&#039;re not moving far enough away from Bangle.  If you&#039;re going to move on to a new regime, I&#039;m not sure that I&#039;m fond of putting someone in charge whose entire career has been spent with Bangle.

It really depends on how Adrian Von Hooydonk decides to handle it.  Will it be business as usual, or will he mix things up significantly and steer BMW into a completely different direction?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My only concern is that they&#8217;re not moving far enough away from Bangle.  If you&#8217;re going to move on to a new regime, I&#8217;m not sure that I&#8217;m fond of putting someone in charge whose entire career has been spent with Bangle.</p>
<p>It really depends on how Adrian Von Hooydonk decides to handle it.  Will it be business as usual, or will he mix things up significantly and steer BMW into a completely different direction?</p>
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		<title>By: The Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of whether or not I like Bangle&#039;s designs, a changing of the guard wass an absolute necessity in order to progress BMW.

I came from the restaurant industry, so the easiest way for me to parallel it is with Certified Executive Chefs (CEC).  A great CEC can make or break your restaurant.  At the same time, they can also severely limit your growth into other areas.  Every once in a while it&#039;s important to let that CEC go in order to get some fresh blood into the place.

Same thing goes with car design.  If you keep the same design team too long, you risk limiting your influences and opportunities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of whether or not I like Bangle&#8217;s designs, a changing of the guard wass an absolute necessity in order to progress BMW.</p>
<p>I came from the restaurant industry, so the easiest way for me to parallel it is with Certified Executive Chefs (CEC).  A great CEC can make or break your restaurant.  At the same time, they can also severely limit your growth into other areas.  Every once in a while it&#8217;s important to let that CEC go in order to get some fresh blood into the place.</p>
<p>Same thing goes with car design.  If you keep the same design team too long, you risk limiting your influences and opportunities.</p>
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		<title>By: Horatiu B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horatiu B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-94080&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bunker&lt;/a&gt;: I don&#039;t think that was the main reason. I&#039;m sure there are more things that we don&#039;t know...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-94080" rel="nofollow">bunker</a>: I don&#8217;t think that was the main reason. I&#8217;m sure there are more things that we don&#8217;t know&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bunker</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/02/03/more-information-on-chris-bangles-resignation/#comment-94080</link>
		<dc:creator>bunker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someday, maybe they&#039;ll all look back and laugh about the fact that this whole thing happened because of an argument over an ELECTRIC BMW...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someday, maybe they&#8217;ll all look back and laugh about the fact that this whole thing happened because of an argument over an ELECTRIC BMW&#8230;</p>
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