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	<title>Comments on: 10 Best BMW Buying Tips: 5 New and 5 Pre-Owned</title>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 02:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve found two very reliable cars that have been inspected by BMW, along with carfax reports. I&#039;m just stuck with the dilemma of high mileage(49,000mi) in one of the cars, a 2007 328i. The car started properly and drove great (if not better then the other car I test drove) but you have any advice when dealing with such a high mileaged car as that? Is there a milestone for BMW&#039;s where they start faltering or does that depend really on how the car was treated for the 2 year lease? The other choice was nearly equal of price (roughly $23k) but was a 2006 325i with 30,000 miles without the premium package that the 328i had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve found two very reliable cars that have been inspected by BMW, along with carfax reports. I&#8217;m just stuck with the dilemma of high mileage(49,000mi) in one of the cars, a 2007 328i. The car started properly and drove great (if not better then the other car I test drove) but you have any advice when dealing with such a high mileaged car as that? Is there a milestone for BMW&#8217;s where they start faltering or does that depend really on how the car was treated for the 2 year lease? The other choice was nearly equal of price (roughly $23k) but was a 2006 325i with 30,000 miles without the premium package that the 328i had.</p>
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		<title>By: Horatiu B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horatiu B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points Mark, but honestly, for my first BMW, I closed the deal through email, with Irv, and walked into the dealership when I had to sign the paperwork. I did not even drive the car before :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points Mark, but honestly, for my first BMW, I closed the deal through email, with Irv, and walked into the dealership when I had to sign the paperwork. I did not even drive the car before <img src='http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-48748&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;RawAutos&lt;/a&gt;: 
True Josh....despite the phenomenal growth of the internet (for better or worse, depending on whom you ask) has given the savvy buyer a wealth of information....Unless someone has lived under a rock for years, or hated computers for whatever reason, there is absolutely no excuse for not going into a dealership without a modicum of information/knowledge...the old axiom &quot;Knowledge is Power&quot; is true, though all you have to do is read the &#039;fest where people have abused this knowledge.  How??  You see, too many try going in to a dealer and cram down some ridiculously low ball offer down the dealerships&#039; throat..for instance, &quot;I am willing to pay you only $125 over invoice for that $80K car&quot;...then the customer gets pissed when they refuse the offer (and heaven forbid, counter the offer) and then go and tell lies on the BMW forums.... 

There is a bad side to this information as indicated by the above example (the &quot;$125 over invoice offer&quot; is real though it was several years ago)....I am flabbergasted that some people try and beat down a dealership with some ridiculous offer....for goodness sakes, the dealer needs to make SOME profit and the sales person needs to make some sort of commission.....if you cannot afford a $1K to $1.5K offer over invoice offer, then you do not need to be driving a new BMW....

I guess the bottom line is that if the sales person shows YOU respect, then be considerate and show some respect back....simple enough??  Then again....maybe not......

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-48748" rel="nofollow">RawAutos</a>:<br />
True Josh&#8230;.despite the phenomenal growth of the internet (for better or worse, depending on whom you ask) has given the savvy buyer a wealth of information&#8230;.Unless someone has lived under a rock for years, or hated computers for whatever reason, there is absolutely no excuse for not going into a dealership without a modicum of information/knowledge&#8230;the old axiom &#8220;Knowledge is Power&#8221; is true, though all you have to do is read the &#8216;fest where people have abused this knowledge.  How??  You see, too many try going in to a dealer and cram down some ridiculously low ball offer down the dealerships&#8217; throat..for instance, &#8220;I am willing to pay you only $125 over invoice for that $80K car&#8221;&#8230;then the customer gets pissed when they refuse the offer (and heaven forbid, counter the offer) and then go and tell lies on the BMW forums&#8230;. </p>
<p>There is a bad side to this information as indicated by the above example (the &#8220;$125 over invoice offer&#8221; is real though it was several years ago)&#8230;.I am flabbergasted that some people try and beat down a dealership with some ridiculous offer&#8230;.for goodness sakes, the dealer needs to make SOME profit and the sales person needs to make some sort of commission&#8230;..if you cannot afford a $1K to $1.5K offer over invoice offer, then you do not need to be driving a new BMW&#8230;.</p>
<p>I guess the bottom line is that if the sales person shows YOU respect, then be considerate and show some respect back&#8230;.simple enough??  Then again&#8230;.maybe not&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
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		<title>By: RawAutos</title>
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		<dc:creator>RawAutos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good point Mark. I know from being a former car salesman that it is absolutely important for a customer to have respect for you. I thought a lot of these things were common sense too, for a long time, but being a car salesman made me realize that it, unfortunately, is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good point Mark. I know from being a former car salesman that it is absolutely important for a customer to have respect for you. I thought a lot of these things were common sense too, for a long time, but being a car salesman made me realize that it, unfortunately, is not.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very informative and helpful.....you would think that this would all be common sense, but then again, this info will likely save someone money....

Another tip I could add is a simple one.....when you go into a dealer, see how you are treated....see how quick someone asks you if help is needed....if you get a bad feeling, then that is the first sign to get the heck out of there.....for instance, the local guy who was initially going to sell me my car left the dealership and went back into the oil business (smart man)...I really liked him as I could always stop and and yack (he has already sold my mom two X5&#039;s)....when I went in and learned that he had left, I met his &quot;replacement&quot;....a true example of a cold fish....when this dweeb realized I was not going to buy right then and there, he quickly wrote me off...I could see it in his eyes, his face and his body language....the temperature in that cubicle dropped 25 degrees....

At that point, I called and started a dialog with Irv....best move I ever made even though I am about 1,000 miles from Motorwerks Barrington!!!!  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA......NO BS from Irv!!!

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very informative and helpful&#8230;..you would think that this would all be common sense, but then again, this info will likely save someone money&#8230;.</p>
<p>Another tip I could add is a simple one&#8230;..when you go into a dealer, see how you are treated&#8230;.see how quick someone asks you if help is needed&#8230;.if you get a bad feeling, then that is the first sign to get the heck out of there&#8230;..for instance, the local guy who was initially going to sell me my car left the dealership and went back into the oil business (smart man)&#8230;I really liked him as I could always stop and and yack (he has already sold my mom two X5&#8217;s)&#8230;.when I went in and learned that he had left, I met his &#8220;replacement&#8221;&#8230;.a true example of a cold fish&#8230;.when this dweeb realized I was not going to buy right then and there, he quickly wrote me off&#8230;I could see it in his eyes, his face and his body language&#8230;.the temperature in that cubicle dropped 25 degrees&#8230;.</p>
<p>At that point, I called and started a dialog with Irv&#8230;.best move I ever made even though I am about 1,000 miles from Motorwerks Barrington!!!!  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA&#8230;&#8230;NO BS from Irv!!!</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
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		<title>By: RawAutos</title>
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		<dc:creator>RawAutos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment John. I&#039;m glad that you had a great experience and are able to agree with my best tip. If you have an experience you would like to share feel free to e-mail myself or Horatiu your story, if you haven&#039;t done so already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment John. I&#8217;m glad that you had a great experience and are able to agree with my best tip. If you have an experience you would like to share feel free to e-mail myself or Horatiu your story, if you haven&#8217;t done so already.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The European Delivery is probably one of the best ways to buy a BMW, as long as you have time to fly to Germany, the savings are amazing and if you lease, you will save even more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The European Delivery is probably one of the best ways to buy a BMW, as long as you have time to fly to Germany, the savings are amazing and if you lease, you will save even more.</p>
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