Comments on: 10 Best BMW Buying Tips: 5 New and 5 Pre-Owned http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/ BMW News, Reviews, Test Drives, Photos And Videos Mon, 13 Feb 2012 09:30:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ai--shiteru-- http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-364049 Ai--shiteru-- Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:48:00 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-364049 I am from Laos, i am planing to buy a used BMW 2006 M6 from dealer This car have 13,000 miles import from America. The price is $70,000 include the tax. Plz give me advice, this is the only one M6 we have in Laos! And I really want it so much, plz give me some advice! Thank u soo much, waiting from the expert! I am from Laos, i am planing to buy a used BMW 2006 M6 from dealer
This car have 13,000 miles import from America.
The price is $70,000 include the tax.
Plz give me advice, this is the only one M6 we have in Laos!
And I really want it so much, plz give me some advice!
Thank u soo much, waiting from the expert!

]]> By: Kreighbaumg http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-357954 Kreighbaumg Tue, 22 Nov 2011 07:14:00 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-357954 What is the true difference between CPO and just used inventory??  Is the CPO worth the added cost? What is the true difference between CPO and just used inventory??  Is the CPO worth the added cost?

]]> By: Some Ideas On Getting The Best Affordable BMW Auto Insurance http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-354865 Some Ideas On Getting The Best Affordable BMW Auto Insurance Tue, 22 Nov 2011 00:45:47 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-354865 [...] #split {}#single {}#splitalign {margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;}#singlealign {margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;}#splittitlebox {text-align: center;}#singletitlebox {text-align: center;}.linkboxtext {line-height: 1.4em;}.linkboxcontainer {padding: 7px 7px 7px 7px;background-color:#eeeeee;border-color:#000000;border-width:0px; border-style:solid;}.linkboxdisplay {padding: 7px 7px 7px 7px;}.linkboxdisplay td {text-align: center;}.linkboxdisplay a:link {text-decoration: none;}.linkboxdisplay a:hover {text-decoration: underline;} function opensingledropdown() { document.getElementById('singletablelinks').style.display = ''; document.getElementById('singlemouse').style.display = 'none'; } function closesingledropdown() { document.getElementById('singletablelinks').style.display = 'none'; document.getElementById('singlemouse').style.display = ''; } How To Acquire Low-cost Residence And Vehicle InsuranceLow-cost Vehicle Hire on HolidayThe Insurance Cost difference between a BMW M5 Series and a regular BMWBuy BMW Insurance For Your Beautiful CarAccord Insurance CertificateTop Car Update 2012 BMW Hamann 6 Series Cabriolet Review – Frankfurt 2011 On BMW >> New Cars2012 BMW 3-series10 Best BMW Buying Tips: 5 New and 5 Pre-Owned [...] [...] #split {}#single {}#splitalign {margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;}#singlealign {margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;}#splittitlebox {text-align: center;}#singletitlebox {text-align: center;}.linkboxtext {line-height: 1.4em;}.linkboxcontainer {padding: 7px 7px 7px 7px;background-color:#eeeeee;border-color:#000000;border-width:0px; border-style:solid;}.linkboxdisplay {padding: 7px 7px 7px 7px;}.linkboxdisplay td {text-align: center;}.linkboxdisplay a:link {text-decoration: none;}.linkboxdisplay a:hover {text-decoration: underline;} function opensingledropdown() { document.getElementById('singletablelinks').style.display = ''; document.getElementById('singlemouse').style.display = 'none'; } function closesingledropdown() { document.getElementById('singletablelinks').style.display = 'none'; document.getElementById('singlemouse').style.display = ''; } How To Acquire Low-cost Residence And Vehicle InsuranceLow-cost Vehicle Hire on HolidayThe Insurance Cost difference between a BMW M5 Series and a regular BMWBuy BMW Insurance For Your Beautiful CarAccord Insurance CertificateTop Car Update 2012 BMW Hamann 6 Series Cabriolet Review – Frankfurt 2011 On BMW >> New Cars2012 BMW 3-series10 Best BMW Buying Tips: 5 New and 5 Pre-Owned [...]

]]> By: Ihab http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-350161 Ihab Sat, 10 Sep 2011 22:50:00 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-350161 thanks for the enlightening info josh, but im wondering would u trust the website autotrader, and if they mentioned that the car is cpo should i take their word for it? because a used m6 that has been driven 33,500km caught my eye (o yea btw is it a good idea to get the m6 based on the milage?) sorry for the 100 question thanks for the enlightening info josh, but im wondering would u trust the website autotrader, and if they mentioned that the car is cpo should i take their word for it? because a used m6 that has been driven 33,500km caught my eye (o yea btw is it a good idea to get the m6 based on the milage?) sorry for the 100 question

]]> By: Kevinandliz0 http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-347837 Kevinandliz0 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 18:28:00 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-347837 Do not purchase a BMW.  The service managers can at their discretion void warranties without any notification, and refuse to document any of their services, refuse to provide a written estimate, refuse to provide a written reason for voiding the warranty, and refuse to put one into contact with someone else. Calling BMW USA's customer relations department is just as useless, they point the finger back at the dealer, refuse to provide their fax number, and refuse to offer any of the above mentioned documents.   They are structured so that a person has no access to anyone else within the company such as the BMWUSA consultants who agreed with voiding my warranty.   They are compartmentalized and use this to stonewall customers. The issue is that I purchased the car used from an independent dealer 4/30/2011.  The car was purchased at auction after being listed by BMW as a CPO (3/22/2011) car (by the independent dealer).   The car when entering service for a regular scheduled oil change (5/20/2011) the dealer offered me an extended warranty for sale.   Now they are claiming because the original owner did not record the oil change with the dealer at the scheduled time (17K instead of 15K, and 32K instead of 30K), that they are voiding the engine warranty.   This happened because I had an engine light due to the turbos.  Turns out the turbo problem according to the dealer are related to either 1) the wastegate actuators or 2) the flapper valve.   If you are not familiar with turbos, these items have NOTHING to do with oil lubrication.   Please protect yourselves and avoid BMW.    Do not purchase a BMW.  The service managers can at their discretion void warranties without any notification, and refuse to document any of their services, refuse to provide a written estimate, refuse to provide a written reason for voiding the warranty, and refuse to put one into contact with someone else.

Calling BMW USA’s customer relations department is just as useless, they point the finger back at the dealer, refuse to provide their fax number, and refuse to offer any of the above mentioned documents.  

They are structured so that a person has no access to anyone else within the company such as the BMWUSA consultants who agreed with voiding my warranty.   They are compartmentalized and use this to stonewall customers.

The issue is that I purchased the car used from an independent dealer 4/30/2011.  The car was purchased at auction after being listed by BMW as a CPO (3/22/2011) car (by the independent dealer).   The car when entering service for a regular scheduled oil change (5/20/2011) the dealer offered me an extended warranty for sale.  

Now they are claiming because the original owner did not record the oil change with the dealer at the scheduled time (17K instead of 15K, and 32K instead of 30K), that they are voiding the engine warranty.   This happened because I had an engine light due to the turbos.  Turns out the turbo problem according to the dealer are related to either 1) the wastegate actuators or 2) the flapper valve.   If you are not familiar with turbos, these items have NOTHING to do with oil lubrication.  

Please protect yourselves and avoid BMW.   

]]> By: Vaj Sage http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-347785 Vaj Sage Thu, 04 Aug 2011 16:19:00 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-347785 It explains the process, with which almost 80% of us are familiar. It should have rather explained what maintenance problems one might encounter after buying. The cost of maintenance, whether it is advisable to buy a BMW after 100,000 miles, when do these die out e.t.c It explains the process, with which almost 80% of us are familiar. It should have rather explained what maintenance problems one might encounter after buying. The cost of maintenance, whether it is advisable to buy a BMW after 100,000 miles, when do these die out e.t.c

]]> By: Vaj Sage http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-347786 Vaj Sage Thu, 04 Aug 2011 16:19:00 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-347786 It explains the process, with which almost 80% of us are familiar. It should have rather explained what maintenance problems one might encounter after buying. The cost of maintenance, whether it is advisable to buy a BMW after 100,000 miles, when do these die out e.t.c It explains the process, with which almost 80% of us are familiar. It should have rather explained what maintenance problems one might encounter after buying. The cost of maintenance, whether it is advisable to buy a BMW after 100,000 miles, when do these die out e.t.c

]]> By: Kevin http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-340765 Kevin Mon, 23 May 2011 06:03:00 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-340765  I was curious as to what years of BMW you would reccomend? i'm looking into pre-owned BMWs and was curious as to what years you'd reccomend for long lasting life, performance, and wont rip out my wallet.  I was curious as to what years of BMW you would reccomend? i’m looking into pre-owned BMWs and was curious as to what years you’d reccomend for long lasting life, performance, and wont rip out my wallet.

]]> By: gokhan http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-339241 gokhan Sat, 07 May 2011 17:23:00 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-339241 I am planning to purchase a BMW 5 series between 2006-2009 years, but if i purchase one of those form private sellers or non-bmw dealers, they are being out of warranty. i wonder if buying a used bmw w/o warranty, or since i will be driving around 15,000 per year lease is better. i ask this based on service and repair costs that i may pay for the bmw which is very expensive. which one would you advise, used or new bmw? I am planning to purchase a BMW 5 series between 2006-2009 years, but if i purchase one of those form private sellers or non-bmw dealers, they are being out of warranty. i wonder if buying a used bmw w/o warranty, or since i will be driving around 15,000 per year lease is better. i ask this based on service and repair costs that i may pay for the bmw which is very expensive. which one would you advise, used or new bmw?

]]> By: Dustcarts http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-316470 Dustcarts Wed, 02 Feb 2011 08:52:26 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-316470 Think carefully about what you're looking for, as the better you know ahead of time what you need, the more targeted your search will be, and happier you'll be with your choice. A convertible isn't the best choice for a family of five, and an SUV will prove to be a challenge for someone driving long distances or constantly navigating downtown traffic and parking lots. Think carefully about what you’re looking for, as the better you know ahead of time what you need, the more targeted your search will be, and happier you’ll be with your choice. A convertible isn’t the best choice for a family of five, and an SUV will prove to be a challenge for someone driving long distances or constantly navigating downtown traffic and parking lots.

]]> By: ian http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-314004 ian Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:51:50 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-314004 hi, i wish to know were exactly is the best pplace to go for a second hand car in germany. i prefer the bmw 3 series convertible 2008 upwards. thanks ian hi,
i wish to know were exactly is the best pplace to go for a second hand car in germany.
i prefer the bmw 3 series convertible 2008 upwards.
thanks
ian

]]> By: nikki http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-185289 nikki Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:55:07 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-185289 so, if I go to Germany to get a BMW, they will pay to ship it here? Or will I have to make arrangements so, if I go to Germany to get a BMW, they will pay to ship it here? Or will I have to make arrangements

]]> By: Bruce http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-118720 Bruce Wed, 15 Apr 2009 02:42:10 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-118720 I've found two very reliable cars that have been inspected by BMW, along with carfax reports. I'm just stuck with the dilemma of high mileage(49,000mi) in one of the cars, a 2007 328i. The car started properly and drove great (if not better then the other car I test drove) but you have any advice when dealing with such a high mileaged car as that? Is there a milestone for BMW's where they start faltering or does that depend really on how the car was treated for the 2 year lease? The other choice was nearly equal of price (roughly $23k) but was a 2006 325i with 30,000 miles without the premium package that the 328i had. I’ve found two very reliable cars that have been inspected by BMW, along with carfax reports. I’m just stuck with the dilemma of high mileage(49,000mi) in one of the cars, a 2007 328i. The car started properly and drove great (if not better then the other car I test drove) but you have any advice when dealing with such a high mileaged car as that? Is there a milestone for BMW’s where they start faltering or does that depend really on how the car was treated for the 2 year lease? The other choice was nearly equal of price (roughly $23k) but was a 2006 325i with 30,000 miles without the premium package that the 328i had.

]]> By: Horatiu B. http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-48906 Horatiu B. Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:11:45 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-48906 Good points Mark, but honestly, for my first BMW, I closed the deal through email, with Irv, and walked into the dealership when I had to sign the paperwork. I did not even drive the car before :) Good points Mark, but honestly, for my first BMW, I closed the deal through email, with Irv, and walked into the dealership when I had to sign the paperwork. I did not even drive the car before :)

]]> By: Mark http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-48769 Mark Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:36:32 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-48769 @<a href="#comment-48748" rel="nofollow">RawAutos</a>: True Josh....despite the phenomenal growth of the internet (for better or worse, depending on whom you ask) has given the savvy buyer a wealth of information....Unless someone has lived under a rock for years, or hated computers for whatever reason, there is absolutely no excuse for not going into a dealership without a modicum of information/knowledge...the old axiom "Knowledge is Power" is true, though all you have to do is read the 'fest where people have abused this knowledge. How?? You see, too many try going in to a dealer and cram down some ridiculously low ball offer down the dealerships' throat..for instance, "I am willing to pay you only $125 over invoice for that $80K car"...then the customer gets pissed when they refuse the offer (and heaven forbid, counter the offer) and then go and tell lies on the BMW forums.... There is a bad side to this information as indicated by the above example (the "$125 over invoice offer" is real though it was several years ago)....I am flabbergasted that some people try and beat down a dealership with some ridiculous offer....for goodness sakes, the dealer needs to make SOME profit and the sales person needs to make some sort of commission.....if you cannot afford a $1K to $1.5K offer over invoice offer, then you do not need to be driving a new BMW.... I guess the bottom line is that if the sales person shows YOU respect, then be considerate and show some respect back....simple enough?? Then again....maybe not...... Cheers, @RawAutos:
True Josh….despite the phenomenal growth of the internet (for better or worse, depending on whom you ask) has given the savvy buyer a wealth of information….Unless someone has lived under a rock for years, or hated computers for whatever reason, there is absolutely no excuse for not going into a dealership without a modicum of information/knowledge…the old axiom “Knowledge is Power” is true, though all you have to do is read the ‘fest where people have abused this knowledge. How?? You see, too many try going in to a dealer and cram down some ridiculously low ball offer down the dealerships’ throat..for instance, “I am willing to pay you only $125 over invoice for that $80K car”…then the customer gets pissed when they refuse the offer (and heaven forbid, counter the offer) and then go and tell lies on the BMW forums….

There is a bad side to this information as indicated by the above example (the “$125 over invoice offer” is real though it was several years ago)….I am flabbergasted that some people try and beat down a dealership with some ridiculous offer….for goodness sakes, the dealer needs to make SOME profit and the sales person needs to make some sort of commission…..if you cannot afford a $1K to $1.5K offer over invoice offer, then you do not need to be driving a new BMW….

I guess the bottom line is that if the sales person shows YOU respect, then be considerate and show some respect back….simple enough?? Then again….maybe not……

Cheers,

]]> By: RawAutos http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-48748 RawAutos Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:46:19 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-48748 Very good point Mark. I know from being a former car salesman that it is absolutely important for a customer to have respect for you. I thought a lot of these things were common sense too, for a long time, but being a car salesman made me realize that it, unfortunately, is not. Very good point Mark. I know from being a former car salesman that it is absolutely important for a customer to have respect for you. I thought a lot of these things were common sense too, for a long time, but being a car salesman made me realize that it, unfortunately, is not.

]]> By: Mark http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-48741 Mark Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:39:24 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-48741 Very informative and helpful.....you would think that this would all be common sense, but then again, this info will likely save someone money.... Another tip I could add is a simple one.....when you go into a dealer, see how you are treated....see how quick someone asks you if help is needed....if you get a bad feeling, then that is the first sign to get the heck out of there.....for instance, the local guy who was initially going to sell me my car left the dealership and went back into the oil business (smart man)...I really liked him as I could always stop and and yack (he has already sold my mom two X5's)....when I went in and learned that he had left, I met his "replacement"....a true example of a cold fish....when this dweeb realized I was not going to buy right then and there, he quickly wrote me off...I could see it in his eyes, his face and his body language....the temperature in that cubicle dropped 25 degrees.... At that point, I called and started a dialog with Irv....best move I ever made even though I am about 1,000 miles from Motorwerks Barrington!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA......NO BS from Irv!!! Cheers, Very informative and helpful…..you would think that this would all be common sense, but then again, this info will likely save someone money….

Another tip I could add is a simple one…..when you go into a dealer, see how you are treated….see how quick someone asks you if help is needed….if you get a bad feeling, then that is the first sign to get the heck out of there…..for instance, the local guy who was initially going to sell me my car left the dealership and went back into the oil business (smart man)…I really liked him as I could always stop and and yack (he has already sold my mom two X5′s)….when I went in and learned that he had left, I met his “replacement”….a true example of a cold fish….when this dweeb realized I was not going to buy right then and there, he quickly wrote me off…I could see it in his eyes, his face and his body language….the temperature in that cubicle dropped 25 degrees….

At that point, I called and started a dialog with Irv….best move I ever made even though I am about 1,000 miles from Motorwerks Barrington!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA……NO BS from Irv!!!

Cheers,

]]> By: RawAutos http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-48734 RawAutos Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:56:21 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-48734 Thanks for your comment John. I'm glad that you had a great experience and are able to agree with my best tip. If you have an experience you would like to share feel free to e-mail myself or Horatiu your story, if you haven't done so already. Thanks for your comment John. I’m glad that you had a great experience and are able to agree with my best tip. If you have an experience you would like to share feel free to e-mail myself or Horatiu your story, if you haven’t done so already.

]]> By: John http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-48733 John Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:49:46 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/06/29/10-best-bmw-buying-tips-5-new-and-5-pre-owned/#comment-48733 The European Delivery is probably one of the best ways to buy a BMW, as long as you have time to fly to Germany, the savings are amazing and if you lease, you will save even more. The European Delivery is probably one of the best ways to buy a BMW, as long as you have time to fly to Germany, the savings are amazing and if you lease, you will save even more.

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