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		<title>By: Video: BMW 550i Gran Turismo Road Test</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/01/26/column-the-zaftig-gt/#comment-189784</link>
		<dc:creator>Video: BMW 550i Gran Turismo Road Test</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it might not fit the bill of a true Gran Turismo, but it sure left a good impression on many people that have seen it or [...]</description>
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		<title>By: atr_hugo</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/01/26/column-the-zaftig-gt/#comment-187354</link>
		<dc:creator>atr_hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 01:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An alternate title to this was tentatively, &quot;550i GT: A Niche Too Far&quot;. 

In the grand scheme of things, I&#039;d rather have the 550i GT than an X5, but would I take it over an F10 5er? No. 

As Brookside points out, this is a car with a high H-point, geared to ease ingress and egress of the AARP crowd. But while it is &#039;OK&#039; dynamically, they should have found some other alphabet soup creation other than GT to tag this as.

As to the Aztek comparison. The Aztek was fundamentally bad on so many levels. I was at SEMA a few years back and a supplier, Decoma, had re-styled the Jeep CJ-esque features of the Aztek. It almost was palatble. At one point I watched Bob Lutz, with a number of GM execs in tow, descend on itto point out what could have been. (The Aztek is one of two cars I&#039;ve had for test drives that my wife has actually refused to be seen in. ; -)

But back (almost) to the subject at hand. Why hasn&#039;t Lexus created a full-up-lux Sienna? The minivan is the perfect transporter for folks that don&#039;t care about driving, and put one in the near luxury lineup and you could probably sell as many as 5er GTs. But please, BMW, do not, repeat, DO NOT, build a minivan. ; -)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An alternate title to this was tentatively, &#8220;550i GT: A Niche Too Far&#8221;. </p>
<p>In the grand scheme of things, I&#8217;d rather have the 550i GT than an X5, but would I take it over an F10 5er? No. </p>
<p>As Brookside points out, this is a car with a high H-point, geared to ease ingress and egress of the AARP crowd. But while it is &#8216;OK&#8217; dynamically, they should have found some other alphabet soup creation other than GT to tag this as.</p>
<p>As to the Aztek comparison. The Aztek was fundamentally bad on so many levels. I was at SEMA a few years back and a supplier, Decoma, had re-styled the Jeep CJ-esque features of the Aztek. It almost was palatble. At one point I watched Bob Lutz, with a number of GM execs in tow, descend on itto point out what could have been. (The Aztek is one of two cars I&#8217;ve had for test drives that my wife has actually refused to be seen in. ; -)</p>
<p>But back (almost) to the subject at hand. Why hasn&#8217;t Lexus created a full-up-lux Sienna? The minivan is the perfect transporter for folks that don&#8217;t care about driving, and put one in the near luxury lineup and you could probably sell as many as 5er GTs. But please, BMW, do not, repeat, DO NOT, build a minivan. ; -)</p>
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		<title>By: Brookside</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/01/26/column-the-zaftig-gt/#comment-187252</link>
		<dc:creator>Brookside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, now your practicing tolerance? You haven&#039;t in your other posts.
I&#039;ve seen you cop attitude previously towards others on BMWBLOG who didn&#039;t agree with you and your boot-licking defense of the status-quo.
So, yeah, I think you are a total douche-bag and I don&#039;t care about your apologies.
&amp;btw- where&#039;s that photo....I&#039;m waiting fanboy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, now your practicing tolerance? You haven&#8217;t in your other posts.<br />
I&#8217;ve seen you cop attitude previously towards others on BMWBLOG who didn&#8217;t agree with you and your boot-licking defense of the status-quo.<br />
So, yeah, I think you are a total douche-bag and I don&#8217;t care about your apologies.<br />
&amp;btw- where&#8217;s that photo&#8230;.I&#8217;m waiting fanboy.</p>
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		<title>By: Giom</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/01/26/column-the-zaftig-gt/#comment-187249</link>
		<dc:creator>Giom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry if I had offended you by my views and love for BMW. I didn&#039;t mean to.

Are you enjoying your 3 series? Would you ever consider a bigger BMW, like a five series?

My fav Beemer (before the GT) was the Seven, I really love big cars. But the practicality of the GT really attracts me. Sometimes I need to haul big equipment around and in a sedan that would never work. So, for me personally, the GT is the way to go.

Also, I find the GT very beautifull. Nothing about it detracts - so, maybe I am just a cheerleader, but then with a passion:)

No hard feelings!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry if I had offended you by my views and love for BMW. I didn&#8217;t mean to.</p>
<p>Are you enjoying your 3 series? Would you ever consider a bigger BMW, like a five series?</p>
<p>My fav Beemer (before the GT) was the Seven, I really love big cars. But the practicality of the GT really attracts me. Sometimes I need to haul big equipment around and in a sedan that would never work. So, for me personally, the GT is the way to go.</p>
<p>Also, I find the GT very beautifull. Nothing about it detracts &#8211; so, maybe I am just a cheerleader, but then with a passion:)</p>
<p>No hard feelings!</p>
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		<title>By: Brookside</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/01/26/column-the-zaftig-gt/#comment-187244</link>
		<dc:creator>Brookside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOoooh, way to defend the everything that BMW does....I mean that basically  seems to be your reason to be on this blog...a sort of unofficial cheerleader.
I&#039;ve owned 3 bimmers- I own one now. 
You can get the 5GT when?....when your Mom takes the training wheels off of your bike and you can peddle on your own?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOoooh, way to defend the everything that BMW does&#8230;.I mean that basically  seems to be your reason to be on this blog&#8230;a sort of unofficial cheerleader.<br />
I&#8217;ve owned 3 bimmers- I own one now.<br />
You can get the 5GT when?&#8230;.when your Mom takes the training wheels off of your bike and you can peddle on your own?</p>
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		<title>By: Brookside</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brookside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops..5Gt</description>
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		<title>By: Brookside</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brookside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You didn&#039;t blow my theory out of the water- you simply responded that you are young and like the car.
Go out to your dealer and ask what demographic the car is aimed at- that simple.
If it appeals to you fine.
You posts always are defensive and smug. 
Tell you what, I&#039;ll call you on this one.
Post thru Horatiu a picture of your new 6GT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You didn&#8217;t blow my theory out of the water- you simply responded that you are young and like the car.<br />
Go out to your dealer and ask what demographic the car is aimed at- that simple.<br />
If it appeals to you fine.<br />
You posts always are defensive and smug.<br />
Tell you what, I&#8217;ll call you on this one.<br />
Post thru Horatiu a picture of your new 6GT.</p>
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		<title>By: Giom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to blow your theory out of the water. But I&#039;m still young and this will be my next car. You see, BMW knows their people better than any body else - that&#039;s all that matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to blow your theory out of the water. But I&#8217;m still young and this will be my next car. You see, BMW knows their people better than any body else &#8211; that&#8217;s all that matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Brookside</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brookside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right- Ruebensesque...? Haha- &amp; that&#039;s being kind Hugo. The niche they&#039;ve carved out is interesting- well-healed oldsters who find it easier to climb up into the lap of luxury than step down into something that&#039;s low and sleek. It&#039;s reason for existing was determined by the physical lack of suppleness in aging Boomers and the health of their 401k&#039;s.
Problem design-wise is is the rear and 3/4 rear view which has the same visual charm as a Pontiac Aztek. It is just plain weird back there with basically a sculpted flat plane that no amount of creases and curves can resolve. Maybe the poorest design solution in the BMW lineup. 
Maybe it&#039;s growing on you Horatiu but to me this is the poster child for BMW at it&#039;s most crass. The answer to a question no one asked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right- Ruebensesque&#8230;? Haha- &amp; that&#8217;s being kind Hugo. The niche they&#8217;ve carved out is interesting- well-healed oldsters who find it easier to climb up into the lap of luxury than step down into something that&#8217;s low and sleek. It&#8217;s reason for existing was determined by the physical lack of suppleness in aging Boomers and the health of their 401k&#8217;s.<br />
Problem design-wise is is the rear and 3/4 rear view which has the same visual charm as a Pontiac Aztek. It is just plain weird back there with basically a sculpted flat plane that no amount of creases and curves can resolve. Maybe the poorest design solution in the BMW lineup.<br />
Maybe it&#8217;s growing on you Horatiu but to me this is the poster child for BMW at it&#8217;s most crass. The answer to a question no one asked.</p>
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		<title>By: Horatiu B.</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/01/26/column-the-zaftig-gt/#comment-187211</link>
		<dc:creator>Horatiu B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I disliked the GT when I first saw the photos, it slowly started to grow on me. While I&#039;m not in their demographic,  I certainly see myself picking it up before a Wagon. 

Also, the new niche will have plenty of followers and the more competition, the more we can expect in the future in the same segment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I disliked the GT when I first saw the photos, it slowly started to grow on me. While I&#8217;m not in their demographic,  I certainly see myself picking it up before a Wagon. </p>
<p>Also, the new niche will have plenty of followers and the more competition, the more we can expect in the future in the same segment.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BMW beat to market by Skoda Superb ;-)

http://downsideupdesign.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/skoda_superb_twindoor.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BMW beat to market by Skoda Superb ;-)</p>
<p><a href="http://downsideupdesign.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/skoda_superb_twindoor.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://downsideupdesign.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/skoda_superb_twindoor.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DB4 Zagato good choice.  Mine would be 250 GT Lusso.  A clear distinction among it &amp; stablemate 250 GT SWB that said, &quot;GT&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DB4 Zagato good choice.  Mine would be 250 GT Lusso.  A clear distinction among it &amp; stablemate 250 GT SWB that said, &#8220;GT&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: atr_hugo</title>
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		<dc:creator>atr_hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The drive was pretty good, but it was on public roads and just a couple of squirts at full-song and maybe a 6/10th cornering test. She Who Must Be Obeyed was the passenger (providing me feedback on comfort - she&#039;s more into that than I am).

I suspect you won&#039;t see these at a lot of track days though. ; -)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The drive was pretty good, but it was on public roads and just a couple of squirts at full-song and maybe a 6/10th cornering test. She Who Must Be Obeyed was the passenger (providing me feedback on comfort &#8211; she&#8217;s more into that than I am).</p>
<p>I suspect you won&#8217;t see these at a lot of track days though. ; -)</p>
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		<title>By: atr_hugo</title>
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		<dc:creator>atr_hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well don&#039;t forget Honda&#039;s Crosstour. ; -)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well don&#8217;t forget Honda&#8217;s Crosstour. ; -)</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/01/26/column-the-zaftig-gt/#comment-187197</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps BMW was hoping Saab would disappear and it would stake claim to the 5-door hatch market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps BMW was hoping Saab would disappear and it would stake claim to the 5-door hatch market.</p>
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		<title>By: atr_hugo</title>
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		<dc:creator>atr_hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 02:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good catch on the spelling Bob, thanks. My all time favorite GT has to be the DB4 Zagato. The 550i GT is a different species. ; -)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good catch on the spelling Bob, thanks. My all time favorite GT has to be the DB4 Zagato. The 550i GT is a different species. ; -)</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, BMW spells it, &quot;Gran Turismo&quot;.

For whatever reason, after considering &quot;RFK&quot;, &quot;FAV&quot;, and &quot;V&quot;, they settled on &quot;GT&quot;.  Presumably, calling it the &quot;Y&quot; -- to go along with the X &amp; Z Series -- would have some calling it the &quot;WHY? Series&quot;. :-O 

From Column: &quot;The trick to making a big vehicle a GT is to deliver similar driving performance that its smaller siblings enjoy.&quot;  Not only does it fail at that, but against its bigger siblings as well.  It weighs nearly 400lbs more than the co-developed F01 7 Series; with all of it just where you don&#039;t want it - up high &amp; aft of rear axle.  Consequently, as BIMMER said in their February 2010 Cover Story: &quot;Unfortunately, the vehicle has also broken new ground by being distinctly disappointing, as a BMW.&quot;

Therefore, we shouldn&#039;t be easily fooled by the mktg hype about it being a &#039;GT&#039;.

It is, however, an exciting new niche for BMW.  Good companies exploit niches.  Better companies are the first to exploit niches.  Best companies -- like BMW AG -- create new niches, to their own advantage(s).  BMW is giving a certian segment of the marketplace something they want, before those customers even knew what they wanted.  The F07 is a luxury RWD SUV, er, SAV.  The luxury interior cabin of a 7 Series; an intermediate driving position; the utility of an E71, without being it being an empty box like the E70 when not hauling cargo; and, the approximate RWD dynamics of a 5 Series Touring, without the &#039;family&#039; reference.  In the US, where the 5er Touring only sells in the hundreds, the GT&#039;s success seems almost assured.  Clever!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, BMW spells it, &#8220;Gran Turismo&#8221;.</p>
<p>For whatever reason, after considering &#8220;RFK&#8221;, &#8220;FAV&#8221;, and &#8220;V&#8221;, they settled on &#8220;GT&#8221;.  Presumably, calling it the &#8220;Y&#8221; &#8212; to go along with the X &amp; Z Series &#8212; would have some calling it the &#8220;WHY? Series&#8221;. :-O </p>
<p>From Column: &#8220;The trick to making a big vehicle a GT is to deliver similar driving performance that its smaller siblings enjoy.&#8221;  Not only does it fail at that, but against its bigger siblings as well.  It weighs nearly 400lbs more than the co-developed F01 7 Series; with all of it just where you don&#8217;t want it &#8211; up high &amp; aft of rear axle.  Consequently, as BIMMER said in their February 2010 Cover Story: &#8220;Unfortunately, the vehicle has also broken new ground by being distinctly disappointing, as a BMW.&#8221;</p>
<p>Therefore, we shouldn&#8217;t be easily fooled by the mktg hype about it being a &#8216;GT&#8217;.</p>
<p>It is, however, an exciting new niche for BMW.  Good companies exploit niches.  Better companies are the first to exploit niches.  Best companies &#8212; like BMW AG &#8212; create new niches, to their own advantage(s).  BMW is giving a certian segment of the marketplace something they want, before those customers even knew what they wanted.  The F07 is a luxury RWD SUV, er, SAV.  The luxury interior cabin of a 7 Series; an intermediate driving position; the utility of an E71, without being it being an empty box like the E70 when not hauling cargo; and, the approximate RWD dynamics of a 5 Series Touring, without the &#8216;family&#8217; reference.  In the US, where the 5er Touring only sells in the hundreds, the GT&#8217;s success seems almost assured.  Clever!</p>
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		<title>By: Laszlo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laszlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree on the requirements however the definition of the GT is a COUPE which a 4 door car isn&#039;t. Also it must be pleasing to the eye, which the 5GT isn&#039;t. A real word GT&#039;s are the Ferrari 456GT, Aston Martin DB9, etc. This balloned up 5 with a hatch is nothing like a real GT. its a sedan with a hatchback - remember Merkur Scorpio ? - and has less room/space then a real wagon should have. an another pointless car just like the X6. But since people with enough money and imagination will buy anything I predict a moderate success to the GT. It will be always a niche  modell, BMW does not want to sell more then 20-25k pieces a year, so it will fulfill the request.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree on the requirements however the definition of the GT is a COUPE which a 4 door car isn&#8217;t. Also it must be pleasing to the eye, which the 5GT isn&#8217;t. A real word GT&#8217;s are the Ferrari 456GT, Aston Martin DB9, etc. This balloned up 5 with a hatch is nothing like a real GT. its a sedan with a hatchback &#8211; remember Merkur Scorpio ? &#8211; and has less room/space then a real wagon should have. an another pointless car just like the X6. But since people with enough money and imagination will buy anything I predict a moderate success to the GT. It will be always a niche  modell, BMW does not want to sell more then 20-25k pieces a year, so it will fulfill the request.</p>
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		<title>By: efoza</title>
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		<dc:creator>efoza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This car is just so well built and rides so well (but not on 20&quot; wheels) that it is already making a huge impression on anyone who has seen it and/or driven it. It is a fab advancement for the BMW brand. Once again BMW has moved the game forward. Well done to those in Munich who are always at least 4 steps ahead of others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This car is just so well built and rides so well (but not on 20&#8243; wheels) that it is already making a huge impression on anyone who has seen it and/or driven it. It is a fab advancement for the BMW brand. Once again BMW has moved the game forward. Well done to those in Munich who are always at least 4 steps ahead of others.</p>
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		<title>By: Giom</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/01/26/column-the-zaftig-gt/#comment-187110</link>
		<dc:creator>Giom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with this assesment. The first thing that I&#039;ll do with my GT (one day), is take it on a long cruise down to Cape Town. This is a 1500km (932 miles) journey that demands a one night sleep-over and a few stops for pick-nicking along the way.

I can not think of a better companion for such a trip!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with this assesment. The first thing that I&#8217;ll do with my GT (one day), is take it on a long cruise down to Cape Town. This is a 1500km (932 miles) journey that demands a one night sleep-over and a few stops for pick-nicking along the way.</p>
<p>I can not think of a better companion for such a trip!</p>
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