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	<title>Comments on: Formula 1:BMW Sauber Winter Testing and the F1.08b</title>
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		<title>By: new hybrid cars</title>
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		<dc:creator>new hybrid cars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 04:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before we really begin to dig into the issues here, I want to preface my argument by pointing out that some people need SUVs, or big trucks. Farmers in particular, who use SUVs and trucks as actual workhorses, are blameless, as are disabled individuals for whom sitting in a car causes discomfort or pain. These people are forced into using SUVs because of their jobs, or personal injuries. But these people are the minority. Most of the individuals who drive SUVs do so because they are hip, shiny and cool, and...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before we really begin to dig into the issues here, I want to preface my argument by pointing out that some people need SUVs, or big trucks. Farmers in particular, who use SUVs and trucks as actual workhorses, are blameless, as are disabled individuals for whom sitting in a car causes discomfort or pain. These people are forced into using SUVs because of their jobs, or personal injuries. But these people are the minority. Most of the individuals who drive SUVs do so because they are hip, shiny and cool, and&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gragop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gragop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also - I may be in the minority here in saying this, but I&#039;m glad the wings and winglets of last year are gone - seriously, having a wing or blade on every surface helps?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also &#8211; I may be in the minority here in saying this, but I&#8217;m glad the wings and winglets of last year are gone &#8211; seriously, having a wing or blade on every surface helps?!</p>
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		<title>By: Gragop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gragop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-72486&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lance&lt;/a&gt;: 
You&#039;ve got a point about F1 being the pinnacle of automotive technology. It&#039;s true and a significant amount of technology has filtered down from F1, especially for Ferrari and McLaren and BMW&#039;s M Division using V10s from the 2006 season as the heart of the M5. F1 has been the top tier of technology and racing almost since it was started in 1950.

That said, you need to consider the actual sport itself, outside of it&#039;s technical prowess. It&#039;s has become boring to watch. I didn&#039;t get into F1 until 2005 when pitstops and qualifying were the extent of leader changes for the last 3 seasons. Finally, for the 2008 season with the removal of a lot of electronic drivers aids, the races actually seemed competitive with teams like Williams or Red Bull making it onto, and sometimes at the top of, the podium for much more enjoyable and watchable races. 

F1 finds itself in the awkward position that whoever has the deepest pockets has the upper hand on technical developments, which is good for technology, but bad because it nearly pre-determines the races. All the FIA is trying to do is keep the series competitive to keep fans interested in it - which I&#039;m OK with even if it means stripping out some of the technology. I was on my feet yelling watching the end of the Spa race and then the same watching the Sao Paulo Grand Prix - that&#039;s how I want to feel watching every race, even at the cost of new technical developments or ugly cars. Just look at the technical changes from the 1969 to 1972 seasons - especially with Lotus and the Lotus Type 72.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-72486" rel="nofollow">Lance</a>:<br />
You&#8217;ve got a point about F1 being the pinnacle of automotive technology. It&#8217;s true and a significant amount of technology has filtered down from F1, especially for Ferrari and McLaren and BMW&#8217;s M Division using V10s from the 2006 season as the heart of the M5. F1 has been the top tier of technology and racing almost since it was started in 1950.</p>
<p>That said, you need to consider the actual sport itself, outside of it&#8217;s technical prowess. It&#8217;s has become boring to watch. I didn&#8217;t get into F1 until 2005 when pitstops and qualifying were the extent of leader changes for the last 3 seasons. Finally, for the 2008 season with the removal of a lot of electronic drivers aids, the races actually seemed competitive with teams like Williams or Red Bull making it onto, and sometimes at the top of, the podium for much more enjoyable and watchable races. </p>
<p>F1 finds itself in the awkward position that whoever has the deepest pockets has the upper hand on technical developments, which is good for technology, but bad because it nearly pre-determines the races. All the FIA is trying to do is keep the series competitive to keep fans interested in it &#8211; which I&#8217;m OK with even if it means stripping out some of the technology. I was on my feet yelling watching the end of the Spa race and then the same watching the Sao Paulo Grand Prix &#8211; that&#8217;s how I want to feel watching every race, even at the cost of new technical developments or ugly cars. Just look at the technical changes from the 1969 to 1972 seasons &#8211; especially with Lotus and the Lotus Type 72.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry but that first car, which is suppose to be what next year&#039;s car will look like is disguisting. It doesn;t look high tech at all. It is way out of proportion and it is just not what F1 is for me. F1 is suppose to be the peak of motorsport and if they keep on bringing all these stupid rules and simplification into the sport, then it is not motorsport and tech and racing at the highest level. 

I expect an F1 car to be full of technology, full of fins to enhance aero, extremely well proportioned and be an attractive car. If not it is not F1 and I will not waste my time watching it. I&#039;d rather watch production cars racing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but that first car, which is suppose to be what next year&#8217;s car will look like is disguisting. It doesn;t look high tech at all. It is way out of proportion and it is just not what F1 is for me. F1 is suppose to be the peak of motorsport and if they keep on bringing all these stupid rules and simplification into the sport, then it is not motorsport and tech and racing at the highest level. </p>
<p>I expect an F1 car to be full of technology, full of fins to enhance aero, extremely well proportioned and be an attractive car. If not it is not F1 and I will not waste my time watching it. I&#8217;d rather watch production cars racing.</p>
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		<title>By: Gragop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gragop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it looks all that bad. Considering how tall and cartoonish Ferrari&#039;s 1975-1976 312 F1 car looked, this thing is gorgeous. Also, I&#039;m glad slicks are back!

If they want to make F1 enjoyable again the go back to the 1968 to 1973 seasons and just use those cars again. Let&#039;s bring back the Ford DFV V8!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it looks all that bad. Considering how tall and cartoonish Ferrari&#8217;s 1975-1976 312 F1 car looked, this thing is gorgeous. Also, I&#8217;m glad slicks are back!</p>
<p>If they want to make F1 enjoyable again the go back to the 1968 to 1973 seasons and just use those cars again. Let&#8217;s bring back the Ford DFV V8!</p>
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