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		<title>By: Divya</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2007/08/13/leather-vs-leatherette-in-a-bmw/#comment-46246</link>
		<dc:creator>Divya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 07:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Megan, I want the leatherette option for personal beliefs regarding animal treatment. I respect BMW for having the option available at such good quality too! However, I want all the other features of the premium package too! And I cannot get the premium package without leather!! I wish like carbon offsetting, there could be some sort of animal-pain offsetting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Megan, I want the leatherette option for personal beliefs regarding animal treatment. I respect BMW for having the option available at such good quality too! However, I want all the other features of the premium package too! And I cannot get the premium package without leather!! I wish like carbon offsetting, there could be some sort of animal-pain offsetting!</p>
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		<title>By: GasGuzzlr</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2007/08/13/leather-vs-leatherette-in-a-bmw/#comment-43666</link>
		<dc:creator>GasGuzzlr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow this is the most bizarre thread I've ever read.  Firstly, let's tackle the leather-vs-leatherette buying decision:
1) Leatherette feels almost as good as most leather on the market, though BMW's leather is superior in feel to its leatherette.
2) Letherette does indeed wear better and last longer than leather, I've had it on a half dozen cars and never complained about it.
3) Leather is softer and smells nicer, but tends to age poorly unless you nourish it with LExol or HideFood every once in a while.
4) Leatherette is a problem for resale - many people walk away from a car with leatherette, particularly if you do leasetrader.com swaps like many of my friends.
5) Unless you tell them, most people will assume leatherette is actually leather - this works particularly well if you order the wood trim :)

Now, let's talk about the ethics that Megan espouses.
1) Animal welfare and vegetarianism are not intrinsically bad or good - they are personal choices, and Megan should be free to make whatever choices she likes.  If she doesn't believe in killing animals, then why does anyone else care?  She's not forcing YOU to become a non-leather-consuming, non-meat-eating citizen, she's just saying it's her preference. Leave her alone.
2) Animal welfare and vegetarianism have nothing to do with hippies.  Some people like animals.  Some people like Cadillacs, too. No one is saying you need to buy into either.  Leave her alone.
3) Animal welfare and vegetarianism are COMPLETELY UNRELATED to greenhouse gas emissions, gas/oil consumption, or ENVIRONMENTAL friendliness.  They are, again, an ETHICAL (and hence, personal) decision.  You can, indeed, buy an SUV and still not eat meat or buy leather - the two are completely different choices, and one does not necesarily assume the other.  If you think they do, you should probably take a logic class and understand the difference between correlation and causation.  It could be argued that greenhouse emissions pollute the environment and hence deplete rainforests and cause problems for all living creatures, but that's not the question, debate, or contention that Megan raises.  All she's saying is she likes animals and doesn't want to eat them or sit on their hides.  At the end of the day, that's her choice and no one else has the right to complain about it.  So leave her alone and stop being so bloody ignorant...you give the rest of the BMW buyers out there a bad name.

In case you were wondering, I'm neither a vegetarian nor a non-leather consumer.  My M roadster and 540 both have extended leather options, I enjoy a good steak, and I have a bunch of gas guzzlers.  Do I love animals? Yup, got a dog or two somewhere around here.  Do I feel much affection for cows? Not particularly, which is why I eat them and sit on their tanned hides.  I'm neither a hippie nor a tree hugger, but I believe that Megan, and others like her, should be free to make their own choices - after all, she's not pushing it on you.  Best option? Leave her alone and do whatever the hell it is that you want for yourself.

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow this is the most bizarre thread I&#8217;ve ever read.  Firstly, let&#8217;s tackle the leather-vs-leatherette buying decision:<br />
1) Leatherette feels almost as good as most leather on the market, though BMW&#8217;s leather is superior in feel to its leatherette.<br />
2) Letherette does indeed wear better and last longer than leather, I&#8217;ve had it on a half dozen cars and never complained about it.<br />
3) Leather is softer and smells nicer, but tends to age poorly unless you nourish it with LExol or HideFood every once in a while.<br />
4) Leatherette is a problem for resale - many people walk away from a car with leatherette, particularly if you do leasetrader.com swaps like many of my friends.<br />
5) Unless you tell them, most people will assume leatherette is actually leather - this works particularly well if you order the wood trim <img src='http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s talk about the ethics that Megan espouses.<br />
1) Animal welfare and vegetarianism are not intrinsically bad or good - they are personal choices, and Megan should be free to make whatever choices she likes.  If she doesn&#8217;t believe in killing animals, then why does anyone else care?  She&#8217;s not forcing YOU to become a non-leather-consuming, non-meat-eating citizen, she&#8217;s just saying it&#8217;s her preference. Leave her alone.<br />
2) Animal welfare and vegetarianism have nothing to do with hippies.  Some people like animals.  Some people like Cadillacs, too. No one is saying you need to buy into either.  Leave her alone.<br />
3) Animal welfare and vegetarianism are COMPLETELY UNRELATED to greenhouse gas emissions, gas/oil consumption, or ENVIRONMENTAL friendliness.  They are, again, an ETHICAL (and hence, personal) decision.  You can, indeed, buy an SUV and still not eat meat or buy leather - the two are completely different choices, and one does not necesarily assume the other.  If you think they do, you should probably take a logic class and understand the difference between correlation and causation.  It could be argued that greenhouse emissions pollute the environment and hence deplete rainforests and cause problems for all living creatures, but that&#8217;s not the question, debate, or contention that Megan raises.  All she&#8217;s saying is she likes animals and doesn&#8217;t want to eat them or sit on their hides.  At the end of the day, that&#8217;s her choice and no one else has the right to complain about it.  So leave her alone and stop being so bloody ignorant&#8230;you give the rest of the BMW buyers out there a bad name.</p>
<p>In case you were wondering, I&#8217;m neither a vegetarian nor a non-leather consumer.  My M roadster and 540 both have extended leather options, I enjoy a good steak, and I have a bunch of gas guzzlers.  Do I love animals? Yup, got a dog or two somewhere around here.  Do I feel much affection for cows? Not particularly, which is why I eat them and sit on their tanned hides.  I&#8217;m neither a hippie nor a tree hugger, but I believe that Megan, and others like her, should be free to make their own choices - after all, she&#8217;s not pushing it on you.  Best option? Leave her alone and do whatever the hell it is that you want for yourself.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Stunned</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2007/08/13/leather-vs-leatherette-in-a-bmw/#comment-43388</link>
		<dc:creator>Stunned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Animal Devourer, are you on drugs? 'Lions evil?...kill all lions?'  I don't know about the hippies but you are a confused, sad little person.

I am no vegetarian but can respect someone who has the ability to stand by their beliefs and fail to see the relevance of your maniacal rantings. Why does ethics equate with 'hippie' anyway, or is that just a term for anyone who happens to not share your particular views.

Another beautiful example ignorance and small mindedness disguised as opinion by bluster and aggression.

Let us pray we don't all 'grow up' to your level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Animal Devourer, are you on drugs? &#8216;Lions evil?&#8230;kill all lions?&#8217;  I don&#8217;t know about the hippies but you are a confused, sad little person.</p>
<p>I am no vegetarian but can respect someone who has the ability to stand by their beliefs and fail to see the relevance of your maniacal rantings. Why does ethics equate with &#8216;hippie&#8217; anyway, or is that just a term for anyone who happens to not share your particular views.</p>
<p>Another beautiful example ignorance and small mindedness disguised as opinion by bluster and aggression.</p>
<p>Let us pray we don&#8217;t all &#8216;grow up&#8217; to your level.</p>
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		<title>By: Animal Devourer</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2007/08/13/leather-vs-leatherette-in-a-bmw/#comment-42475</link>
		<dc:creator>Animal Devourer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if you're a hippie, WHY WOULD YOU WANT AN X5!? A huge polluting waste of resources that NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY needs. 

Soccer mom pretending to be a vegetarian that cares, grow up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if you&#8217;re a hippie, WHY WOULD YOU WANT AN X5!? A huge polluting waste of resources that NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY needs. </p>
<p>Soccer mom pretending to be a vegetarian that cares, grow up.</p>
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		<title>By: Animal Devourer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Animal Devourer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Torturing animals is wrong, but if killing and eating them is wrong, you should hate animals, because they do it too. Lions kill hyenas, baboons, wildebeast, pronghorn, etc.

Lions are evil!!! They eat them while they're still alive! Kill all lions, oh wait, I like animals, even though they do what I don't like!? Oh it's so confusing to be a hippie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Torturing animals is wrong, but if killing and eating them is wrong, you should hate animals, because they do it too. Lions kill hyenas, baboons, wildebeast, pronghorn, etc.</p>
<p>Lions are evil!!! They eat them while they&#8217;re still alive! Kill all lions, oh wait, I like animals, even though they do what I don&#8217;t like!? Oh it&#8217;s so confusing to be a hippie.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2007/08/13/leather-vs-leatherette-in-a-bmw/#comment-42007</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fsume93,
'In this day and age', when there's options that don't involve the exploitation of animals, I choose those options. Where in my post do I suggest that I'm superior for wanting leatherette? Did the originator of the blog not ask for any other advantages and disadvantages of leather vs leatherette? I'm sorry you feel so angry and bloody-minded because I'll go without for my ethics, where I imagine you just consume everything in sight without a second thought. Thank God the world is slowly waking up to the plight of its fellow creatures...no thanks to self absorbed ppl like yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fsume93,<br />
&#8216;In this day and age&#8217;, when there&#8217;s options that don&#8217;t involve the exploitation of animals, I choose those options. Where in my post do I suggest that I&#8217;m superior for wanting leatherette? Did the originator of the blog not ask for any other advantages and disadvantages of leather vs leatherette? I&#8217;m sorry you feel so angry and bloody-minded because I&#8217;ll go without for my ethics, where I imagine you just consume everything in sight without a second thought. Thank God the world is slowly waking up to the plight of its fellow creatures&#8230;no thanks to self absorbed ppl like yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: fsume93</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2007/08/13/leather-vs-leatherette-in-a-bmw/#comment-41949</link>
		<dc:creator>fsume93</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ethical huh? The survival of the human raced depended on animal sources for nourishment and sustenance over many thousands of years. How nice of you in this day and age to present yourself as superior to anyone who doesnt share you own minority point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ethical huh? The survival of the human raced depended on animal sources for nourishment and sustenance over many thousands of years. How nice of you in this day and age to present yourself as superior to anyone who doesnt share you own minority point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2007/08/13/leather-vs-leatherette-in-a-bmw/#comment-36797</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 05:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ethical reasons! I'm a vegetarian / animal welfare nut who happens to be in the market for a new X5 - in Australia they're currently only available with leather and not leatherette. Don't think that doesn't mean I'm lobbying furiously to have the 'ethical' option made available to me - they're made in the same factory as the US models that have leatherette as an option!! I'm at the point where I actually won't buy the car unless I can get the leatherette...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ethical reasons! I&#8217;m a vegetarian / animal welfare nut who happens to be in the market for a new X5 - in Australia they&#8217;re currently only available with leather and not leatherette. Don&#8217;t think that doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m lobbying furiously to have the &#8216;ethical&#8217; option made available to me - they&#8217;re made in the same factory as the US models that have leatherette as an option!! I&#8217;m at the point where I actually won&#8217;t buy the car unless I can get the leatherette&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Augustrain2004@e60.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>Augustrain2004@e60.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the real cost of maintaining the two. what products to you recommend to keep either options in good shape and looking well.
How well to they keep by just keeping them maintained every 4 months with some product set.
What are the most effective products to keep the L..ette or Leather in fine shape. This is people most concern when choose, Look and Keeping it Looking !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the real cost of maintaining the two. what products to you recommend to keep either options in good shape and looking well.<br />
How well to they keep by just keeping them maintained every 4 months with some product set.<br />
What are the most effective products to keep the L..ette or Leather in fine shape. This is people most concern when choose, Look and Keeping it Looking !!</p>
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		<title>By: BMW Blog - News, Information and Photos site details and rss feed Info</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 00:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2007/08/13/leather-vs-leatherette-in-a-bmw/#comment-13981</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible to get leatherette on higher models i.e. 7 series?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible to get leatherette on higher models i.e. 7 series?</p>
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