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BMW and PSA start electric joint-venture

News | October 29th, 2011 by 11
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PSA Peugeot Citroën and BMW are announcing a new collaboration on a platform for electric hybrids, as well on next-generation Prince engines. The 50-5o joint …

PSA Peugeot Citroën and BMW are announcing a new collaboration on a platform for electric hybrids, as well on next-generation Prince engines.

The 50-5o joint venture is called BMW Peugeot Citroën Electrification and it has been approved after months of going through government regulations.

The electric hybrid platform will find its way in both BMW and PSA Peugeot Citroen vehicles. Furthermore, the venture plans to launch an open technology platform that will sell components to other interested parties.

BMW and PSA start electric joint venture

Over 100 million euros were invested by the two companies in a research and development facility in Munich and in a plant in Mulhouse, France. The new joint venture will create 650 jobs.

BMW Peugeot Citroën Electrification will design and build electric motors, generators and high-voltage batteries. The first components of the joint-venture will find their way into production vehicles starting in 2015.

Collaboration between the two companies began in 2002 with the development of the Prince engine, a gasoline four-cylinder engine (1.4 and 1.6 liters) that powered MINI vehicles, as well as the Citroen C3, DS3 and Peugeot 207 and 308. BMW was responsible for design and engineering, while produced the engine.

We anticipate that the electric hybrid platform will be used in some of the new MINIs, including the Countryman.

[Source:  LeftLaneNews ]

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  • Mateo

    as long BMW 3/5/7 stays 100% bmw i don’t care

    but if i give 35000€ for a 3 series and the same parts are in some peugeot 308 – fuxx off bmw

    • Anonymous

      You already get parts in BMW cars that are also used in other – even cheap economy class – cars. Parts supplied from the same supplier. From engine & gearbox & brake parts, electronic systems (ABS, ESP etc), headlight systems etc. By Bosch, Continental, ZF, Getrag, Hidria, Hella etc etc,

      Also, the parts from JV with PSA have been (and will also be in the future) developed by BMW, by BMW engineers, in BMW R&D center (the FIZ) in Munich. PSA is there to provide logistics, purchasing network, and production facilities – and in exchange they get the tech & the parts.

      So, BMW develops & provides tech (parts) for Peugeot & Citroen cars. Not vice versa. Yet PSA facilities are used (since it’s quicker & cheaper to to that than to build a new BMW facility from scratch)  for production – yet the production is done completely by BMW quality standards!

      MB is doing something similar with Renault-Nissan: yet even more radical – they develop parts & even whole cars together, sharing parts, cross-using the facilities etc.

      French & German automotive industry is becoming VERY codependent with all these JVs. Now Renault is connected to Daimler, while PSA is to BMW. And vice versa.

      While eg. VW, Toyota, GM, Ford, Hyundai – KIA, Tata & the Chinese carmakers are big enough to stay out of JVs & mergers, all the others are forced to cooperat with each other (in JVs or even by capital exchange). So you have Opel as a part of GM. Nissan is merged with Renault. Daimler is cooperating with Renault-Nissan. BMW is cooperating with PSA. Mazda is cooperating with Ford. Fiat & Chrysler are merged. Mitsubishi is cooperating with PSA & Chinese carmakers.

      I’m sure the all the others (namely Honda & also Suzuki now the merger with VW failed) will be forced to find partners ASAP.

      Even in ultrapremium cars like Rolls-Royce, Bugatti, Bentley, Lamborghini, Ferrari, Maserati, Porsche etc you get parts & tech shared by their “sister-brands” from the same Group: eg. RR – BMW & MINI; Bugatti, Bentley, Porsche & Lamborghini – VW, Skoda, SEAT, Audi; Ferrari & Maserati – FIAT, Chrysler, Alfa Romeo, Lancia.

      Parts sharing & cooperations are inevitable process in the contemporary automotive industry. Not to mention very littel components are really developed & produced in-house … vast majority of them is developed & produced by same suppliers.

      • Mateo

        1.6 l turbo in new bmw 116i/118i is based on peugeot/bmw design!

        this N20 and N55 are BMW!

        and for this stuff: –From engine & gearbox & brake parts, electronic systems (ABS, ESP etc), headlight systems etc. By Bosch, Continental, ZF, Getrag, Hidria, Hella etc etc, –

        it’s normal – no manufacturer can do 100%.

        who makes wood for door/desk manufacturers? well, i know door manufacturers don’t work in wood :)

        • Anonymous

          The Prince engines (the 1.6L turbo engines from MINI) and the Prince-based (but not actually Prince engines!) engines in 116i / 118i are developed by BMW engineers in Munich! In the 200-head Prince development team, there was only about 10% PSA engineers – mainly to provide tech details so the Prince engines could fit in PSA cars.

          Be sure when it comes to core powertrain components BMW will not take chances & left the development to someone else. Being that internal combustion engines, or hybrid, or even electric powertrains. BMW is the Bavarian MOTOR Works after all. :)
            

          • Mateo

            that’s what i’m hoping for!!!

            nice answer!

          • StraightSix

            PSA makes top quality engines, not to meniton hybrid systems. At the moment, French carmakers are ahead in hybrid technology than German ones. BMW knows this, that’s why they went into the bussines with PSA. So don’t whine about it.

          • Mateo

            - So don’t whine about it.-

            i’m not. i’m just saying : if i pay for bmw i want bmw! simple as that.

            for example, you buy volvo s60 with 2.0 turbo i4 240 hp and 6 speed automatic – you actually buy:

            Modified ford mondeo platform
            ford ecoboost engine
            ford powershift transmission

            now, those thing are good but why pay two times more of their actual value????

            see the point?

          • StraightSix

            I see the point, I just wonder why would anyone buy Porsche Cayenne then, why not VW Touareg instead for half the price? PSA is not a premium brand and it doesn’t even want to be, but they have the knowledge on certain aspects which others perhaps lack. So if they are in collaboration with BMW it is logically that they will be using some of those elements they produce in some of their models. That goes for all three brands. You will pay for BMW and you will get a BMW, but that same element made in collaboration will be half price cheaper in PSA product. At least I would think so.

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