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Comparison: BMW 1M vs Porsche Cayman S and Audi TT RS

1M | December 12th, 2010 by 28
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It seems like we’re not the only ones comparing the new BMW 1 Series M Coupe against its competitors. BMW UK features on their online …

It seems like we’re not the only ones comparing the new BMW 1 Series M Coupe against its competitors. BMW UK features on their online website a performance comparison between “the baby-M” and Porsche Cayman S and Audi TT RS.

Just moments ago, we published our photo comparison between the 1M and the Audi counterparts, TT RS and upcoming RS3. This time, the Cayman S gets thrown into the mix. A rear-wheel drive vehicle as well, the Cayman S is powered by a naturally aspirated 3.4 liter six-cylinder engine outputting 320 horsepower and 370 Nm of torque.

Despite being lighter, 1,350 kgs vs. 1,490 for the 1M, the Cayman S is a tad slower, at 5.2 seconds compared to the 4.9 seconds for the BMW.

Audi TT RS features under the hood a 2.5 liter turbocharged direct-fuel-injected inline-5 engine coupled also to a 6-speed manual transmission. The engine produces 340 horsepower and 332lb-ft of torque at 1,600-5,300 rpm (250 kW/ 450 Nm).

Comparison: BMW 1M vs Porsche Cayman S and Audi TT RS

The 1M is powered by the N4 twin-turbocharged 3.0-liter I-6 engine. For the 1M, the turbocharger, exhaust system, and ECU have been revised to produce 335 horsepower and 332 pound-feet of torque, though up to 369 pound-feet are available temporarily in overboost mode.

Let’s have a look at the comparison chart put together by KeeResources.

Comparison: BMW 1M vs Porsche Cayman S and Audi TT RS

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001688446429 Giom Mouton

    The weight of the 1M seems to be it’s greatest hinderance. I am surprised at it’s weigth, but I do remember reading something about weight vs price. The compromise seems to have been made.

    The question now is, will it hurt the 1M around a track compared to the other two. My guess is, the Porshe will remain the better ballanced, better drivers choice here, followed by the BMW and then the Audi.

    I’m also assuming the Cayman S is a lot more expensive, which would balance things out.

  • ferrarifan

    There was an error in the highlighting of ‘class leading’ power to weight. It says there Kilograms per Horsepower, and the M coupe should be last at 44 kilos/hp against the cayman s’ 42 kilos/hp

    I personally think the Cayman S would spank both.. What more the Cayman R..

  • FreudeKing

    That TT is really ugly and too girly to be a proper sports car – go back to the kitchen!

    • Kram

      I’ve read your past comments and they are usually reasonable, but to say the TT is ugly or girly shows that you’re not objectionable. Hey, I own a BMW and I’ve owned an Audi (not the TT) so I’m not fighting against BMW here, but when the TT debuted it was a forward pushing design that may have led to the R8. One could make the argument that BMW and 1M when it comes to design tends to rest on their laurels. When you look at the three cars pictured you really think the 1M is most interesting design? Perhaps if it resembled a current interpretation of the M1 then there would be no question.

      • FreudeKing

        Out of the three cars, the 1M is the sportiest car and the TT is just weak. The design is NOT forward pushing that led to the R8, they were completely designed by different designers. In fact, they were busy with the R8 before this TT came out.

        The Audi TT’s design and concept originaled from the new VW Beetle, which we all know is a flop. The only thing they didn’t do with this car is to put flowers on it to make it more appealing to the female species. Everyone that I know who owns a TT or aspires to own a TT or thinks that the TT is gorgeous are females. Please tell me you are a female as well!

        I have also driven in the TT numerous times and I didn’t enjoy the experience, it has an extremely harsh ride – worse than any BMW with the largest rim and RFT, it is a cagy car, the steering feel is terrible and it is extremely noisy in the cabin. These are just some of the few things that I do not like about the TT, oh and the interior cabin quality sucks!

        The 1 Series Coupe is a very well designed car (except for the bug eyes) and I think the 1M based on that design is appropriate.

        • Kram

          Nope, not female. Perhaps “you” and “everyone you know” are threatened by the TT or maybe you all are compensating for lacking something (since its not manly enough). That’s just a jab at your manhood since you questioned mine – so we’re even. I didn’t know you were talking performance, I thought you were strictly talking design as to why the TT is ugly and girly. I’ve never driven the car so I can’t comment about that.

          Well, the TT debuted in 1998 meaning the car was likely in development at a minimum since 1994 (confimred on wiki). Ok, so the R8 was in development before that? Well, I guess if you count owning Lamborghini or racing at LeMans. Audi’s current “design language” for all their cars since 1999 began with the debut of the TT with the rounded nose and tall grill which was based to some degree on the Auto Union Type C. IMO, just strictly talking design the TT is a more interesting design and the 1M is an aggressive design because of the body kit; minus the kit, well then you have a bug eyed BMW.

          • FreudeKing

            I have no doubt about my manhood and taste. TT are for girls who don’t know anything about cars. How can a stupid TT, based on the flowery VW Beetle, which both look like a toy car that can be kicked around be compared to a BMW M car.

            Yes, the bug eye is probably the weakest desgin feature on the 1 Series at the moment, but the entire car is strong and well designed. I can find more flaws with the TT design – those headlights are beyond terrible, that grille is just so ugly (looks like a fish mouth forever open), the entire shape looks like a ball, like a VW Beetle. Interior styling sucks with those round aircon dials (we are not in the class of Mini here), the TT competes against the Z4 and quite frankly, the TT is just miles behind.

            The 1 Series M compares to the RS3 and too bad that is miles behind too.

  • JMLBMW

    Well… one thing is for sure… the 135i is really fast in it’s own right… I know… so the 1M will be much faster! It weighs in with 77 less lbs then the 135i coupe and it runs within a few tenths of the M3. Now… call Dinan and have them work their stuff for you and I will estimate that since a 135i can cut loose with over 400 HP… the 1M will come in at close to 450 HP… very fast to say the least!

  • Woo Hoo

    How is a compact car with an M package even in the same comparo as a Porsche?!

    • FreudeKing

      because it is not just an M package, it is a BMW M Car (note the difference) and a pure BMW M is always superior to any Porsche with VW parts!

  • billmilo

    I was hoping the 1M would weigh less than it does.

  • viper

    porsche
    audi
    bmw

  • Gord

    The 1M could take on the TT-RS and the Merc SLK AMG, but I don’t think it could beat the Cayman. Porsche won’t admit it, but the mid-engined Cayman could probably beat their 911, if they developped the Cayman to its fullest potential (instead of making sure it is inferior to the 911)..

    • JMLBMW

      Just like BMW is doing with the 1M, because with a little tweaking, the 1M would beat the latest M3… easily!

  • JMLBMW

    BMW’s all have a weight problem, which is why even the M cars 0 to 60 times are all in the 4.5 sec. range. Mercedes Benz suffers from the problem even more… which is why they have such huge amounts of HP on their AMG cars. Porsche however keeps the weight in check… which is why the 911 turbo models all hit 60 in 3 secs. or less. Come on BMW… either up the HP or lower the weight!

    • FreudeKing

      Weight means quality and stability at high speeds:)

      • ferrarifan

        far from true.

        • FreudeKing

          If you want a light car, then go race with a Toyota Corolla. Good quality cars comes with reasonable weight and we can see it in the 1 Series as it is based on the 3 Series.

          Has anyone crash tested the Porsche? I bet you won’t even survive a frontal at 40km/h. As for the TT, only women would be attracted to this car based on the VW Beetle.

          • VA

            Sorry dude, I don’t think you understand vehicle engineering.
            The quality depends more on cost of materials than weight. BMW could’ve made the 1M lighter with aluminium doors, fenders, carbon brakes etc. but the costs would make it unaffordabe and unprofitable.

            As a BMW owner I’ve got to say its about time BMW followed Audi’s lead and made a new car lighter than it’s predecessor a la the new S4, A6 etc.

          • FreudeKing

            The reason why Audi’s are light is becasue they are basically VW’s. I have not seen a VW that’s as heavy as a BMW becasue it doesn’t have the stuff that BMW offers to all its customers. As for alluminium – that’s old technology. Furthermore, BMW chose not to use that material for its chassis becasue of the fact that it is extremely soft and is unsafe in an event of a collision. That’s why Audi is behind BMW in crash test results.

          • s2k

            Lighter weight cars are harder to engineer. Lotus elise, ferrari challenge, lambo superlaggera all developed to weigh less first, to corner better and go faster

  • M3GTS

    As much as I like this car, it wont come close to touching what is probably the world’s best sports car in the Cayman S.

  • M3GTS

    Cayman S runs 8:05 at the Ring compared to the 8:12 by the 1M, and Porsche’s 0-60 times are ultra conservative. Cayman S with manual usually clocks mid 4s and cayman S with PDK clocks low 4s 0-60. But at the same time, top end the Cayman S will demolish the 1M.

  • M3GTS

    Its really all about power to weight and that is where the Cayman S stands alone (as well as being ahead).

  • Pegscrapr

    The 1M is trying to be what the Porsche is… which is a real sports car. It’s not.

    So what if the 1M is close to the Porsche in 0 – 60 times? Real drivers care more about twisty roads than they do straight line performance. And so does Porsche.

    I love BMW’s. A lot. They’re great cars. But Porsche is in another league that the BMW can’t touch.

  • Vwrace2002

    Can anybody tell me why we have Stealerships asking crazy amount of money for this car?

    I waited for this car and my dream was taken away from me… no dealership took my option for european delivery or they were asking for $10,000. 00 on top of the price for holding, they were even choosing thee color for me, etc. Does any body knows how many of these were going to be built in the USA?

    I guess I have to wait for something else in the future and hold on to my VW GTi VR6…

    This sucks!!

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  • http://www.facebook.com/ibby.josef Ibby Josef

    My BMW Z3M chewed the Cayman up and spat it out… No Contest!

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