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Video: BMW M5 Touring takes on the Aston Martin DBS

Videos | September 7th, 2010 by 47

M5Board brings us an interesting head-to-head showdown between an Aston Martin DBS Touchtronic and the BMW M5 Touring with ESS ECU chip. Before we all …

M5Board brings us an interesting head-to-head showdown between an Aston Martin DBS Touchtronic and the BMW M5 Touring with ESS ECU chip. Before we all jump into a flaming war about the results, let’s take a step back and lay out some facts. First off, this was a straight-line race with amateur drivers, an important element to consider.

Second, the M5 clearly had some engine modifications which could have given an edge in straight-line.

Third, the DBS has historically scored better times at Nurburgring, so this shows that the car is capable on taking the M5, if handled properly.

With these facts laid out, let’s have a look at the powerplants of these two cars. Aston Martin DBS uses a 5.9L V 12 double overhead cam engine which produces 510 horsepower at 6,500 rpm and 420 ft-lb of torque(570 Nm) at 5,750 rpm. The car weighs 3,737 lbs.

The BMW M5 Touring is powered by the same natural aspirated 5.0-liter V-10 cylinder engine as its sedan counterpart. The new M5 Touring redlines at 8,250 rpm and reaches 500 horsepower and 383 lb-ft of torque. It weighs 4,136 lbs.

  • Andrew

    wow – i would have not picked the M5 to win that one. The DBS sounds so good – but man it was toppled easily in that video.

  • Giom

    Surprising indeed. But, like many other, I would also rather have the Aston over the Touring. It would be a conandrum to choose between the M5 sedan and the Aston tho…

    I’ll have the M6… thanks:)

  • 330i

    m5 is nice car…btw dbs is dbs

  • 1Mc

    Was not expecting that. At all. How does that work exactly – the DBS has more hp, is lighter, yet it slower. Something to do with gear ratios?

    • http://ebrake.blogpsot.com Andrew Murphy

      Depending on the specific DBS – it could have been a manual against SMG. Despite what many say about it, SMG is very quick.

    • Lariv

      The M5 Touring here has been fitted with an ESS ECU chip.

  • M5POWER

    I really didn’t expect that to happen… Honestly!

  • joe

    i dont even want to think what would have happened if it was a next gen m5
    ;)

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  • Babken

    Chipped? I’m not impressed. Chip a VW Golf, and it will beat the stock M5. It would be fair if they put stock versions against each other. Then I would enjoy the race regardless of the result.

    • wazon8

      What are you talking about? Have you ever bought chip to N/A engine? You will get around 30hp. Go and check web-sites of the most popular BMW tunners such as Hamman, G-power and so on. You obviously overestimate chip tunning. Even if there were other mods, this V10 rarely go over 560 – 570 hp and as far as I know this M5 was tunned by Supersprint. Even with this advantage of power, DBS should be faster, but Alston’s engineers needed to screw up transmission of power to rear wheels.

      • Babken

        The stock M5 can’t be so fast. And the straight line performance is the current generation M5′s Achilles’ heel. Even the weakest amg (the C63 AMG) easily wins against the M5 on the straight line.

        • wazon8

          Again, what are you talking about? M5 e60 has 13,5 sec. to 200km/h (touring needs 0.3 additional sec.) and it’s faster than new e 63 amg, c 63 amg and so on. Could you compare data at least one time before you throw your craps again? In such kind of race acceleration to 200 km/h is very important factor and M5 e60 is still one of the best in this respect – only RS6 is faster to 200km/h in this segment. DBS is not so impressive, it has 12,7 sec. to 200 km/h.

          And deos anybody say that stock M5 would be faster eighter? All have been said here was that you simply overestimate chip tunning of N/A engine. You compared M5 with 50hp plus to heavy modified VW Golf, which deals with M5. You supposed (via comparision to Golf) that heavy modification had to be done in order to deal with , I reply that all you need is chip tunning, new exhaust and intake systems.

          • Babken

            What? The E60 M5 is faster than the new E63 AMG? You’re just ridiculous. The E60 M5 stands not even a single chance against the new E63 AMG in any respect. Well, maybe the upcoming M5 will beat the new E63. But not the current one. Like I said, even the C63 AMG which is by the ay the weakest AMG easily beats the fastest M car (the M5). Visit fastestlaps com, draw the comparison and see what the C63 AMG does to the M5 on the race track: HUMILIATION. That’s a fact. Actually, the only M car that I respect is the M3, but it has a very weak low end torque.

          • wazon8
          • wazon8

            To make it easier for you, since your inability to compare data is well known here:
            http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/4571e21f46306-vs-_Mercedes_E63_AMG.html

          • wazon8

            BTW, pretty close as for 5 years difference between both cars.

          • wazon8

            Sorry for number of posts:
            As for low torgue issue: it is compromised by range of rpm up to 8300, which is inassecible level for MB engines. Anyone who saw drag race in which M5 is involved should notice that this car taking advantage due to this very feature of engine. It can still go when most of rivals need to change a gear and can reach higher speed on each gear. Just watch few drag race and stop to throwing these craps.

          • wazon8

            @babken: since when C 63 amg is rival of M5? How do you feel about this (pointless) comparision: http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/46f388b437911-vs-_Mercedes_E63_AMG.html ?

          • Babken

            First, the acceleration figures of the new E63 AMG are vastly underestimated, because its engine easily beats the M5 engine in the International Engine of the Year Awards competition for two years straight.
            Second, look at the track numbers. How dare you say such nonsense? The E63 AMG is one head above the M5.
            IN EVERYTHING!

        • http://ebrake.blogpsot.com Andrew Murphy

          I’ve driven an M5 flat out before (M School) and it’s no slouch – I’m not sure you’re giving it enough credit. My guess would be that it’s straight-line perfromance heavily depends on the launch by the driver.

          I’d also be willing to bet the M5 does a better job putting power to pavement than the C63 does.

  • wazon8

    Is German speaker here? There is supposed to be a German language article in which it’s stated that M5 e60 is able to lap Ring in 7:52: http://www.rhein-main.net/sixcms/detail.php/5rmn01.c.1879435.de?topic_id=731907 Could someone confirm it and say us who said that M5 e60 was able to lap so fast?

    • Babken

      Are you kidding? Even the new generation M5 won’t be able to lap the Nordschleife in 7:52. Wake up, man. It’s not an AMG to make incredibly fast laps. It’s a weak fat-ass M car.

      • wazon8

        Do you have ability to read with understanding? What was the question of my post then?

        • http://www.bla.de bla

          So i am german and i have read the article. It is said that the m5 e60 did lap the ring in 7:52. But the article was written before the m5 went on sale. Maybe they estimated the time. But since the m3 gts recently lapped the ring in 7:49 you can figure out on your own that the m5 must be way slower.

          • wazon8

            Ok, I heard about similar pre-production announcement which turned out to be far from truth. Thanks.

          • Babken

            No way. How can a pre-production model be 23 seconds faster than the production model. NONSENSE. Just like the rest of fairy tale comments made by bmw fans.

          • wazon8

            @Babken: What’s the difference between pre-production announcement and pre-production car? I used to thinking that it’s huge. You can drive the last one, but not the first one, you can utter the first one, but not the last one. You’re very confused.

        • Babken

          Do you understand English? My answer is quite relevant.

          • wazon8

            Quite relevant to what? I asked what is stated in the article and you started to talking about me dreaming about M5 e60 lapping Ring faster that it actually lapped it. How is it supposed to be relevant answer? Oh, sorry, you’ve added clause “quite”, hence perhaps you disowned ordinary meaning of “relevant”. But why should we care about your idiolect?

  • http://www.bmwblog.com Expendables

    Again it’s you Bakben…
    First of all. You failed hard with the chip thing….
    You clearly don’t know anything about engines or chip tuning….
    You’re a joke man you make people laught at you. You’re pathetic and retarded.
    Check the Nurburgring lap times: M3 E92: 8.05
    C63 AMG: 8.13 same as the M5 E60.
    So stop with the: “weakest AMG beats the fastest M” thing cause we all know that’s ridiculous.
    This M5 beat the DBS fair and square.
    It’s all about the gear ratio.
    The M6 is quicker than a Nissan GT-R from 0-300 km/h.
    You’re just a stupid retarded hater.
    All you can do is hate. You really are pathetic man look at yourself…
    But I’m not gonna keep arguing with an idiot over the internet because it’s pointless.
    If you got something to say to me come by my place I’ll give you my adress.
    stupid kid…

    • XC

      lol

    • Babken

      I don’t need to have talk with such a feeble-minded idiot like you. If you have any question to me, you come to me. I ca give you my address. As for which is faster, the C63 AMG is much faster than the E60 M5. Check for the LAP TIMES, you fool.

  • 1Mc

    Why do you guys even bother with Babken – you know he just talks utter tripe for the sake of it. The guy needs a new hobby.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1497041056 Daniel Hoang

    Babken, About your comment on the C63

    ” Even the weakest amg (the C63 AMG) easily wins against the M5 on the straight line.”

    But how would the C63 AMG handle around. Jeremy Clarkson can answer that. “Ax Murderer with headlights” Plus the M3 with 30 less hp but it preform 5 seconds faster.

    Now put a 2012 Mustang Boss 302 against the C63 AMG.

    ~26MPG 5.0L 450hp and 400 tq NATURALLY ASPIRATED vs 6.3L 17MPG 450hp.

    The Stock GT aready prove to be on par if not better than the M3 according to C&D and Motor Trend.

    Now the E63, I have nothing to say about it. It handles and preforms the best of any Merc in existance. Only thing I dislike is most of those aspects are controled by ESC (Electronics).

    If all the new E class sedans replace there column shifters to console shifter like the E63, they would be 100s times more sporty looking interior wise and the driver will feel more like they are in a sporty car rather than a Town Car. That empty spot in the middle of the console makes me feel like Im driving my dads truck rather than a Sedan.

    • Babken

      My friend,
      The C63 AMG handles much more better than the E60 M5. Visit fastestlaps com, draw the comparison and become bitterly disappointed with your m5.

      • wazon8

        Why do you compare small car with huge one? They are even not in the same segment. It’s not surprising that lighter usually handle better than heavier one, especially when there is such difference in size and weight. M3 is C 63 AMG competitor. Don’t forget about it.

        • Babken

          If it’s m5, it should be the KING. And the stupid excuses like the one you’ve made aren’t acceptable. The difference is only about 70kg in Merc’s favour. That shouldn’t have influence on the results. But the C63 AMG is faster. I’m looking forward to the upcoming M5.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000163817321 X5SoB

    This is obviously a heavily stepped on engine, the stock M5 engine would not win in this race.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1497041056 Daniel Hoang

      It has a ESS ECU Chip which according to the website adds 10hp and better shifting. The DBS won in acceleration the first few seconds the driver cant shift even though its an manualmatic.

    • Babken

      My friend,
      Try to explain that to some idiots making useless comments in this blog, for instance to Expendables.

    • wazon8

      I bet it’s around 560-570hp with new software (chip), exhaust and intake system, maybe suspension eighter, but it didn’t play crucial role here.

      • Babken

        What? An upgrade of 70hp didn’t play any role? Like I said, you’re a mere dreamer.

  • XC

    Come on, Babs, just get over it!

    • Babken

      I’ll try, my friend. Though I love BMW more than any of these idiots. The difference between me and them is that I see flaws and criticize them to make BMW better, and they blindly accept whatever they see.

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