Conversion: New iDrive integrated into “old” BMW 5 Series E60

How-To | August 7th, 2010 by 20
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At the end of 2008, the new BMW 7 Series was launched to the market. Along with a new design and multiple technical innovations, the …

At the end of 2008, the new BMW 7 Series was launched to the market. Along with a new design and multiple technical innovations, the BMW owners received an important update of the often criticized iDrive Navigation System.

The new generation of infotainment is built on an entirely new platform, CIC (Car Infotainment Computer) and it is a hard-disk based system, replacing the slower DVD-based units. It is manufactured by Becker, same company that worked on Audi’s MMI system. The updated system includes a new iDrive Controller with shortcut buttons, together with a more intuitive iDrive menu system.

But with the new system coming to the market, existing owners weren’t left with many options. BMW does not offer a retrofit kit nor helps with the installation, so this market was left to open to third-party companies and enthusiasts to retrofit their BMWs. A member of M5board explains in detail how the new system could fairly easily be fitted into an “old” E60 5 Series.

Conversion: New iDrive integrated into old BMW 5 Series E60

Before we jump into this visual guide, a few housekeeping things. First, make sure you know what you’re doing, and we certainly cannot assume any responsability for failed conversions which were commissioned after reading this article. Second, you need lots of new parts, from a the new LCD, a new operating unit for automatic climate control, plenty of cables and of course, the actual iDrive unit.

Guide by Stunt from M5board:

Here are all the goodies spread out on the table…

Conversion: New iDrive integrated into old BMW 5 Series E60

Next up was pulling the trim off

Conversion: New iDrive integrated into old BMW 5 Series E60

A shot of the back of the CCC with all wires still attached

Conversion: New iDrive integrated into old BMW 5 Series E60

After complete removal of old CCC components

Conversion: New iDrive integrated into old BMW 5 Series E60

CCC vs. CIC backs. The orange connector on the CIC is not connected to anything once installed

Conversion: New iDrive integrated into old BMW 5 Series E60

CIC cables test fitted on bench

Conversion: New iDrive integrated into old BMW 5 Series E60

My old center trim before seperation

Conversion: New iDrive integrated into old BMW 5 Series E60

Lower center trim separated from upper. I broke all the tabs, but they are fortunately not used with the new upper center trim

Conversion: New iDrive integrated into old BMW 5 Series E60

Next up was pulling the pins from the power connector from the old display. Here’s the old connector

Conversion: New iDrive integrated into old BMW 5 Series E60

After transferring to new connector

Conversion: New iDrive integrated into old BMW 5 Series E60

Different angle showing the pin-outs

Conversion: New iDrive integrated into old BMW 5 Series E60

Routing USB cable to glove box. I used the same hole that the OEM iPod adapter uses

Conversion: New iDrive integrated into old BMW 5 Series E60

Completed

Conversion: New iDrive integrated into old BMW 5 Series E60

CIC with all wires connected just before being installed. Note that the cable to the old display and the power for the CCC cooling fan are not used with the CIC

Conversion: New iDrive integrated into old BMW 5 Series E60

CIC installed

Conversion: New iDrive integrated into old BMW 5 Series E60

Old vs. new Climate Controls

Conversion: New iDrive integrated into old BMW 5 Series E60

New Climate Controls installed along with center trim

Conversion: New iDrive integrated into old BMW 5 Series E60

Finally a set of shots showing some M5 specific screens on the fancy new display

Conversion: New iDrive integrated into old BMW 5 Series E60

Conversion: New iDrive integrated into old BMW 5 Series E60

Conversion: New iDrive integrated into old BMW 5 Series E60

[Source: M5board ]

  • paul

    very cool post…maybe someone will be able to retrofit a proper hidraulic steering to the new 5 and make it almost as good to drive as the E60 did LOL

    • lol

      Proper hydraulic steering? ROFL you E60 guys crack me up

      R&P is only true steering

    • David Jeske

      you can always order the 550xi, F10 xdrive models still come with hydraulic steering.

      • Mohamed Boukachabia

        the f10 m5 is still with the hydraulic steering or am i wrong ?

  • kcsnyud

    +1 LOL

  • M5POWER

    Nice article. Thanks!

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  • Lariv

    That is brilliant.

  • JD

    So why is there no picture of the finished mod? The last picture still shows the middle dashboard part missing.

  • BIMMER1

    I don’t know why anyone would want to spend that kind of $$$ for a few extra features. Plus the type of person that has that kind of money to spend would probably have just bought a new car with the CIC by now anyways. The climate panel, IDrive controller, 8.8 screen, and CIC are $3,500 in parts and that doesn’t include install labor if you can’t do it yourself. That’s what I call a serious waste of money.

  • bmwtechal

    wow. yeah i agree with BIMMER1: “I don’t know why anyone would want to spend that kind of $$$ for a few extra features…”
    To Stunt from M5board:
    after the installation didn’t you need to code the new control modules to the car? the CIC, CON (controller), and IHKA (climate control) are all control modules that when ordered new (and by VIN), and installed in the car would still require to be coded to the vehicle. if not when plugged in you would have some functionality but probably not completely. i’ve never put control modules in a car without coding so i dont know to what extent the functionality of the system would work. i do know that there would be fault codes set throughtout the car and bus communication would not be corret. again i dont know to what extent it would effect the rest of the car (ive never tried) but i would think there would be some issue with the IHKA (climate). the DME gets some of its information from the IHKA, like A/C compressor request status. the DME needs info like that to adjust fuel/ignition mapping for the increased load. it might be a small parasitic load, but yeah the DME needs to know if the A/C compressor is running. thats all just an example.
    there would also be a problem when trying to code the modultes to the car. when trying to code the modules the cars ‘VO’ (vehicle order) would show that based on the information that is connected to the cars VIN the car is equipped with a ‘CCC’ (car communicaton computer). thats the old DVD based system you just took out. the VO is a written code that identifies the car to the BMW programing software. the new CIC would not be recognized since the VO shows the car has a CCC and therefore not be codeable. thats just how it works at a delaer level. this can be done though. to properly and completely code this car the VO needs to be rewritten. BMWNA would need to be contacted to get a new VO written that could be manually changed though the programing software. but BMWNA would not even do it since this is not BMW authorized retrofit. so then you need to find someone who knows how to write the programing.
    Stunt did you code the control modules? if not, will you and Can you? does your system work? do you have any functonalty problems? does the car do anything weird since the installl? was it really worth all the money?
    again im with BIMMER1. theres no way to justify the cost of this retrofit. the benefits/features and enhancements arent enough. thats why its not offered as a factory retrofit.

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  • Aligulsen

    is this possible on a BMW X5 3.0sd from 2008?

  • Jahaziel ramirez

    How do you install the nav system for a bmw e60 m5  i have all the parts already

    • rene

      FIRST THING IS RUN YOU VIN AT BMWVIN.COM AND YOU WILL FIND OUT IF YOU CAR IS READY FOR THE NAV RETROFIT THE CODE AFTER RUNNING THE BIN IS S6UAA, IF YOU HAVE THAT YOU DONT NEED ANYTHING ELSE, EXCEPT FOR THE DISPLAY, NAV COMPUTER, ALL IS ALREADY THERE,EXTRA WILL BE THE USB CABLE AND AUXILIAR, BUT IS SIMPLE AND WONT TAKE U 1 HOR IF YOU ARE HANCY TO RETROFIT DOS 2 PARTS.

  • http://twitter.com/sahilr Sahil R. P.

    Watch my video review of the retrofit done to my 5er two months ago:

    Part 1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7BOD_IXQnw
    Part 2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RquNIuej0ys

    I almost got an Audi S5, but decided to make some changes to my current car, and put the rest as a down payment on a condo. A lot of this is about personal choices people. Where’s the love?

  • Guest

    Hi,

    I have a 2008 BMW X5 with a DVD iDrive system. Can I upgrade it to a Hard Drive Based or to a newer iDrive? If yes how much approximately will it cost?

    Thank you,
    Sharat.

  • Coolking X5

    Hi,

    I have a 2008 BMW X5 with a DVD iDrive system. Can I upgrade it to a Hard Drive Based or to a newer iDrive? If yes how much approximately will it cost?

    Thank you,
    Sharat.

    • rene

      ys you can if can, AND MORE EASY IF YOU CAN GET FOR JUNK YARD, NO NEED TO CODE ANYTHING.

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