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Slippery BMW Insider Spills More Beans: ///M1 Bound for Production After All?

Featured Posts, Rumors | March 12th, 2010 by 19
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We’ve all seen the spy-shots of a rumored ///M 1 series car, but speculation around its production is making us sea sick. Of course, as …

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We’ve all seen the spy-shots of a rumored ///M 1 series car, but speculation around its production is making us sea sick. Of course, as enthusiasts, we hope this car will come to fruition, but we have heard a lot of skepticism around the validity of M1 rumors.

First of all, the current 1 series is late in its life cycle, already providing thrills to the driving public for over 6 years. Would the M division really set about developing an M car from an aging chassis? Typically M needs 3 years to develop a production BMW into an ///M car.

The next nail in the M1’s proverbial coffin was its failure to make an appearance in Geneva. This was a surprise to some and a disappointment to many. Again, the life cycle clock is ticking, so if not in Geneva, then when?

Well, if Scott 27 is to be believed, then here are the answers. The M1 (1 Series M car) is still slated for production and the first official details will be released at the end of this year. As for price, it is rumored to ring in around $10,000 Euros more than the 135i, or around 50 to 60,000 USD or 60 to 70,000 CAD (these figures are extremely flimsy – take with a grain of salt). While the 1 Series is “over the hill,” we will still see an ///M car based upon it – such is the enthusiasm of Dr Kay Segler for an attainable ///M variant. Of benefit to the design team is the long established 1 series platform. Engineering costs will be reduced through heavy modification and retooling of an existing BMW engine (we don’t know which one, but we suspect the N55). With the aforementioned cost reductions, more time and attention will be paid to the balance and handling of the M1. A highly tuned chassis will efficiently transfer power from the engine to the road – it is said that the engineers are working to emulate the best qualities of BMW’s beloved E30 and 2002. The M1 will firmly place below the M3 in terms of its performance envelope and stature, but clearly the bar is set very, very high.

A few months after the M1’s release, we will see a cabriolet version for open-air motoring. The M1 will come equipped with a manual transmission or choice of an M-DCT (notice how I listed these in order of importance). When can you write the check? Official release is expected at the end of this year and global sales should begin mid 2011 with M1s rolling off showroom floors. The M1 should see a two-year production run into 2013 when the next generation 1 Series is revealed. Power figures have taken a bump in the right direction, apparently closer to the 370 hp mark. Further weight reduction is rumored, we can only hope.

Speaking of the next generation 1 Series, Scott 27 goes on to offer more information: the 5 door hatch will premier first followed by the 3 door hatch. The coupe and cabrio will follow with production starting in 2013. Really hope the Mayans were wrong about that calendar.

[Source: Scott27 for 1Addicts | Rendering by Roger Ligtheness ]

  • Giom

    Lol for the Mayans remark!

    I’m really confused by all this. Why is the One having such a long life cycle? And why the hype if this super One Series will be nothing more than a 135is? There’s always more questions than answeres after an update.

    Guess, it makes life more interesting and give us something to look out for every day:)

    • Shawn

      Giom,

      According to the rogue BMW source, Scott 27, this will not be an “M tuned” car as in a 135iS – it will be a full blown M car. Based on spy pics, we have seen a much wider track, drastically modified body work, etc., BMW does not make such modifications for IS models. Your first question was aswered in the article, M head Dr Kay Segler is passionate about producing this car and is therefore willing to break a few “rules” in terms of producing this car so late in its life cycle. It doesn’t much matter does it? Half the planes you’ve ever ridden in were probably older than you, or close to your age. Fine machinery does not need to be replaced until the technology is irrelevent, and the 135i is still bursting with tech. It is a very relevant car to the market – still edging out competition for the win in many comparison tests even years after its release.

      Hope that satisfies your questions, if this claimed BMW source is to be believed, then we have a lot to look forward to. :)

      • Giom

        I probably didn’t make myself clear enough. I understand all that is written, but I don’t trust any of it. There are too many ends that don’t meet up. And why havn’t we seen any testing cars since?

        I’d love to be wrong about this. It’s better than having to deal with the dissapointment if this car is not what I had hoped for.

        • Shawn

          I completely agree Giom, as I said, this back and forth uncertainty is making us sea sick! That’s the thing about rumors, we just won’t know until official release happens.. if it happens.. So far Scott 27 has proved to be very accurate with his information, so it is likely the above will follow through but your right, it’s just rumor. The absence of any test mules is also currious, though by no means ominous. Again, we certainly hope that the M1 will materialize. :)

    • wazon8

      As Shawn has said modyfications will be more extensive than in IS models.

      What is so wrong in making improved car in the end of its production? It would be somethiing wrong if BMW would just applied old technology, but it won’t be the case here, since 3.0 litre twin power turbo engine will be applied in next 3-er and even in next 1-er and – as I believe – modyfications made in chassis won’t give dirvers a room for complaints. We’ve got similar situation in past and in a result we got a great car – M3 E36 3.2litre, which appeared in 1996 (after 3 years of producing M3 e36) and its production ended in 1998.

  • L1ndja

    This is getting really anoying..Either do it or don’t.I agree that its a bit late.This M1 should have been ready for 2009 and not 2011 when its approaching its end of life cycle.But if it was to be released now for sale it still would be a major hit but in one years time ?What the hell.Its not a good idea

  • bob

    IME, this is either the most painstakingly well-crafted hoax ever, or a deliberate plant by BMW. Given that he’d said some things that a BMW employee would not typically say & didn’t say some of the things that a BMW employee typically would say, I’ll go with the former. Caveat being that BMW has indeed leaked info the media before, e.g. cgi’s of E85 and E60.

    What independent verification is there that “Scott27″ is truly a BMW insider — slippery or otherwise?

  • Doug

    Mayans?

    • BMWM6

      yes they no all

  • Artmic

    They can take this M and shove it, the car looks like a girls car with those warped headlights etc… The ugliest BMW on the road IMO.(excluding that idiotic X3 suv thing).

    • BMWM6

      and what blog are you from?

      • XC

        viper’s

  • brassneck

    14yearoldspammers.com, same as Viper and co.

  • ExileOnTheMainstream

    This is my next car if they actually produce it! Can’t wait :-D Don’t let us down BMW!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1062205910 Bandile Sam

    I just hope the ‘M1′ comes to life i want it to kill the SLK 63 AMG!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1062205910 Bandile Sam

    PLZ don’t let us down BMW….

  • brassneck

    I have no experience of the 1 coupe but the salesman said when i was buying my X6 that they are an absolute nightmare in the snow, the extra power may prove fatal for some :)
    Looks good though.

  • ExileOnTheMainstream

    Uh…they aren’t designing it to be a car for the snow. With appropriate snow tires any BMW with current traction control and ABS systems will perform well in the snow. I drive a RWD BMW in the snow and it outperforms most other vehicles on the road. The only disadvantage I have from an AWD BMW with similar tires is straightline acceleration, and possibly ground clearance, that is all. Most of the problems with driving in the snow, are either equated to the driver, or the tires. Sometimes it could be contributed to a poorly balanced car with a poor traction control and ABS system…. which is not a problem that ANY BMW has.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Maurice-Mcdonald/100001457523847 Maurice Mcdonald

    I love this ride

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