Comments on: Jeremy Clarkson reviews the BMW X5 M

By: Witt

Witt — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:43:32 +0000

Amen Jeremy, what were they thinking, a 5200 lb. M car. Horse-whipped is what BMW should be.

By: Doug

Doug — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 06:03:49 +0000

I know. My object was to explain how the X5M (or that V8 anyway) could surpass the lambo and it’s V10.

It’s not possible to get the exact models, but the basic engine characteristics are.. obvious.

By: bmwm6

bmwm6 — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 20:50:00 +0000

its awd

and a little note I was just comparing the 0-60 times

also im talking about the older gallardo (not the LP550)

By: Doug

Doug — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:48:58 +0000

Ok so… comparing the X5-M and the Gallardo (interesting comparison, actually), one reason for the performance difference is most likely the much fatter torque curve from the turbos:
http://www.dragtimes.com/2006-Lamborghini-Gallardo-Dyno-Results-Graphs-8854.html
http://www.dragtimes.com/2009-BMW-750i-Dyno-Results-Graphs-18369.html (using a 750 for comparison– basically same engine)

That V8 is just unreal in this respect. Btw, does the X5-M actually have AWD or RWD? I know when they were considering V10s it was RWD-only.

It would be useful to dig up the “kerb” weight of each and other relevant specs, but… google is so tiring!

By: bmwm6

bmwm6 — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:28:02 +0000

it was on an article here by car and driver

the one about the x5m vs jeep cherokee srt8 vs rangerover vs porsche cayenne

it is stated in the article that the x5m did it 4.0 sec It had launch control though

here is the link for bmwblog article in there you can find the link to the car and driver article

http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/12/18/bmw-x5-m-vs-grand-cherokee-srt8-range-rover-sport-supercharged-cayenne-turbo-s/

if you want the chart it is here it has all the specs for all 4 suvs and there 0-60 times It is in a PDF format

http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/original/application/1d2579a84986b6dc3ae4dec5c9b30d35.pdf

By: Doug

Doug — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:56:12 +0000

Sorry I misread as “time” rather than “tire”.

I don’t believe 4 seconds for X5M. You need an extremely low center of gravity to take advantage of the front wheel traction, and on such a high center fo gravity you’re going to lose the front wheels’ grip and those mechanicals become dead weight. Let alone the tire stickiness which … I can’t speak to.

By: bmwm6

bmwm6 — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 23:59:48 +0000

more grip = stickier

stick to the ground more ok its a horrile joke

basically the tires on a lambo have much more grip than these

it shows a lot in acceleration

By: Doug

Doug — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 23:57:44 +0000

Actually there is one good scenario for road-only SUVs. Some people need to be able to get around even when the roads haven’t been plowed, like medical, fire, law enforcement, and skiers/snowboarders.

By: Doug

Doug — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 23:51:28 +0000

stickier?

that is not an attribute of time!!

By: bmwm6

bmwm6 — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 23:41:58 +0000

I would also like to add that lambo tires are MUCH stickier than the ones on BMW’s

By: bmwm6

bmwm6 — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 23:40:58 +0000

going along with you (not that I dont disagree) this arguement should be raised to all SUV’s not just the X5M

but seriously its amazing 0-60 in 4 seconds flat thats as fast as the old gallardo and by far faster than the corvette

By: Doug

Doug — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 22:15:22 +0000

Well…. sure they should.

This brings up again the question of why [on earth] are people buying SUVs if they have no intention of ever going off-road with them? Aside from looking and feeling rugged, I mean.

Or being “safer” at the expense of people who drive cars. Or having better visibility at the expense of people who drive cars. Etc etc. They don’t even perform better in the snow, which is another common rationale.

By: BMWM6

BMWM6 — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 21:26:08 +0000

ok i dont where the comment from you about me being a BMW ass licker is

but my point is you are constantly giving negative comments on almost every post and saying how superior mercedes (or audi or watever you happen to be obsessed with at that moment) is to BMW

By: BMWM6

BMWM6 — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 21:23:05 +0000

well then again shoudnt a porsche cayenne turbo s or ML63 AMG be good off road
ranger rover is good offroad but no where near as good as the above mentioned in performance

By: Doug

Doug — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:08:07 +0000

I think Jeremy raises a good point — shouldn’t an ///M *SUV* be just as phenomenal off-road, since that’s part of the definition of an SUV. Or is ///M for ///Minivan?

By: Doug

Doug — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:01:45 +0000

The first turbochargers were on european WW-I planes, if you really want to get into it.

By: ferrarifan

ferrarifan — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 14:16:06 +0000

you guys should see the x6 review..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkxAd7Er-mQ&feature=player_embedded

By: BMfan

BMfan — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 05:25:25 +0000

I think BMW made the M SUVs for those who need it and they’ll go for it. It will be pointless to those who have smooth roads everywhere but entirely neccessary for those who might need a high ground clearance vehicle that will also offer sportscar performance on normal roads. What of the visibility and style-statement(should have said fashion-statement) of say an X6M?

By: badger

badger — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:29:56 +0000

The BMW X5/6 M cars are one of the best handling SUVcars on the road today.
But they are a lot of faults to the idea of a M SUV. However, Clarkson is right when he talks about the interior of car. Its nothing special. It looks like a regular X5/ X6 and they’re MPG suck.. honestly 11 miles per gallon? effiecent dynamics!?
Just buy a X5d..cheaper, same interior, and handles just as well.

By: bmwm6

bmwm6 — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:44:32 +0000

Why are you here If your a BMW hate and Merccedes lover

interior is beautiful
mercedes is crap they have no performance Its just all luxury

Us more advanced BMW lovers get above normal luxury with best performance best technology The best all round package

Mercedes-Top of the line Overpriced luxury

BMW-slightly less luxury better everything else (all around package)

tell me now every normal person should like BMW

p.s. a normal person would not come to a blog about BMW and comment on a regular basis when they love mercedes benz.

let me put the peices together YOU ARE NOT A NORMAL PERSON AND YOU LIKE MERCEDES that says a lot about there drivers.