Comments on: Video: Next BMW M5 being tested at Nurburgring

By: Nizer

Nizer — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:53:10 +0000

Drop the weight and give us a smaller, more efficient naturally aspirated engine please. My 535i required a quart of oil and coolant top-up before 10k miles due to the heat generated from the turbos. That was with 300hp and straight six under the hood. Can’t imagine the heat and wear that 555hp and V8 in the same space will generate. Sure won’t be a motor you hang onto for 100k miles.

By: 100$ GUY

100$ GUY — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:40:06 +0000

Whats with the GTR in the video?
And no, 555 hp won´t cut it. For bragging rights. Marketing.

By: Auday

Auday — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:38:48 +0000

Babken, yes absolutely they do. But BETTER depends on the goals set to them by the corporate management, which is generally more profit (more sales, less cost), and that doesn’t necessarily mean a better car.
IMO, apart from the awesome S85 engine of E60M5, the E39M5 is a better car, and it’s way more fun to drive. Just drive them back to back and you could easily tell that the E39 is more of a sport car than the E60. So M Specialists could go backward.

By: Babken

Babken — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:46:10 +0000

I’m sure that M Specialists know better what kind of engines to put into their extraordinary cars- naturally aspirated or turbo engines. I can say just one thing: the next generation M5 will retain its title as the best sedan in the world. It’s M5 that generates the famous saying: M – the strongest letter.

By: L1ndja

L1ndja — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:56:58 +0000

I agree how can a turbo engine ever top the sound of an high reving bmw m engine?and F88ck all theese automatic gearboxes with 100-gears…

By: John Pham

John Pham — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:58:28 +0000

I’m sure M Division will produce a great vehicle. The X5 M and X6 M are debatalbe, but when have M ever failed with any vehicle. We could argue that the M5 and M6 could have been a bit faster than its competition, but ever since the dawn of M – I’m in love…

By: clast

clast — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:02:27 +0000

it sounds like a jet….IM IN LOVEEEE

By: Auday

Auday — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:50:44 +0000

M cars are not about just horse power, they are more about precision and control of that horse power. Turbo is just not the right engine for that. Ask any Porsche specialist and they will tell you that the hardcore Porsche is the GT3 because it’s naturally aspirated and lighter. Thats what M cars should be, more focused handling, naturally aspirated, and High-Revving. A Turbo M car is not the same M car, or lets say the meaning of M cars is different now.

I agree that Turbo have an advantage in creating easy HP and Torque, and it saves fuel a little bit (nothing compared to shaving off 100kg of the car, especially in city driving). But turbo engines are just not as controllable as Naturally aspirated. A NA engine at certain RPM and certain throttle will always generate the same torque, while in a turbo engine this is not true, the speed of the turbo shaft at the moment is a factor, and that is not directly related to the RPM of the engine.

As for KERS, it sounds like a totally marketing thing. How will this work? in F1 there is an electrical motor/generator connected to the drive line that recovers the kinetic energy into electricity stored in a heavy battery. Which is basically a hybrid system. how would the M5 do that? I mean really add a hybrid system just for the boost button?
And Boost button? come on BMW!! what’s next an autofire button? a teleport button? this is getting silly.

So no more manual? why?!!
DCT is a great tranny for sure and it’s great for the track and for daily driving, but why removing the option of manual fun?!! also why 8spd SMG what would SMG have better than a DCT?

By: viper

viper — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:08:59 +0000

Im sure its going to be over 555hp , 555 is just not enough for competition , 600 and double that to Nm it could be the best M5 ever