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		<title>By: Funcrew</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/10/02/editorial-where-has-the-car-gone/#comment-168884</link>
		<dc:creator>Funcrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My daily driver is a 1988 325i sedan. It&#039;s an absolute blast to drive - light, nimble, tail-happy, equipped with plain mechanical limited-slip diff, bulletproof inline-6 &amp; drivetrain, dirt cheap to maintain and modify, and hugely satisfying. Also a pain in the butt in many ways, and my wife and daughter hate it with a passion. The new BMW&#039;s are much nicer cars to drive around, more civilized and livable. That said, I&#039;m putting some money into the old E30 to keep it going for another 20 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My daily driver is a 1988 325i sedan. It&#8217;s an absolute blast to drive &#8211; light, nimble, tail-happy, equipped with plain mechanical limited-slip diff, bulletproof inline-6 &amp; drivetrain, dirt cheap to maintain and modify, and hugely satisfying. Also a pain in the butt in many ways, and my wife and daughter hate it with a passion. The new BMW&#8217;s are much nicer cars to drive around, more civilized and livable. That said, I&#8217;m putting some money into the old E30 to keep it going for another 20 years.</p>
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		<title>By: X5SoB</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/10/02/editorial-where-has-the-car-gone/#comment-156521</link>
		<dc:creator>X5SoB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the the?! That&#039;s what happens when i get in a hurry and distracted at the same time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the the?! That&#8217;s what happens when i get in a hurry and distracted at the same time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: X5SoB</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/10/02/editorial-where-has-the-car-gone/#comment-156519</link>
		<dc:creator>X5SoB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Car has never really gone away, but the definition of what a Car is has gotten a good bit fuzzier, what with 4 door coupes, crossovers, lowered SUV/SAVs, hardtop convertibles, and the like. I argue that the Sports Car has gone away, with the increased weight, complexity, comfort, and safety. The Elise would have been considered porky by Colin Chapman, and the Mini is huge in comparison to it&#039;s progenitor. No current car fits into the classic definition of a Sports Car: a minimalist light weight cloth top 2 seater with just enough power and razor sharp to the point of scary handling, not even the Miata, which far too civilized. The Sports Car may be gone, but we are all the the better for it. So too the the simple 3 series versus the current sophisticated one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Car has never really gone away, but the definition of what a Car is has gotten a good bit fuzzier, what with 4 door coupes, crossovers, lowered SUV/SAVs, hardtop convertibles, and the like. I argue that the Sports Car has gone away, with the increased weight, complexity, comfort, and safety. The Elise would have been considered porky by Colin Chapman, and the Mini is huge in comparison to it&#8217;s progenitor. No current car fits into the classic definition of a Sports Car: a minimalist light weight cloth top 2 seater with just enough power and razor sharp to the point of scary handling, not even the Miata, which far too civilized. The Sports Car may be gone, but we are all the the better for it. So too the the simple 3 series versus the current sophisticated one.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/10/02/editorial-where-has-the-car-gone/#comment-156351</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 04:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article.. thank you.  I do believe that the 3 is just that... a focussed car...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.. thank you.  I do believe that the 3 is just that&#8230; a focussed car&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Horatiu B.</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/10/02/editorial-where-has-the-car-gone/#comment-156346</link>
		<dc:creator>Horatiu B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 03:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your input guys, very elaborate. While I&#039;m a big fan of older bimmers, I can&#039;t say that I don&#039;t enjoy my 335i more than any other 3er I drove. Technology is moving forward and I hate to be missing out.

Thanks for the great column Stjepan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your input guys, very elaborate. While I&#8217;m a big fan of older bimmers, I can&#8217;t say that I don&#8217;t enjoy my 335i more than any other 3er I drove. Technology is moving forward and I hate to be missing out.</p>
<p>Thanks for the great column Stjepan.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, but I must agree to disagree.  It&#039;s true that modern vehicle expectations in safety/comfort/etc., have distanced the driver somewhat from the pure, lightweight and direct driving experience of years gone by.  But as technology advances, so does the feel of dynamism in BMW&#039;s cars in certain respects.  For example, take throttle control.  While the E30 was probably one of BMW&#039;s purest renditions of the automobile, it lacked the crisp, immediate throttle response made possible on new BMW&#039;s by drive-by-wire technology/improvements in injection technology, valve train tech, etc.  

So while I enjoy the 2500 lb curb weight of the E30, I&#039;m confident in the direction that BMW has taken its design principles of making every car a sporting car, if not a sports car.  

I would also have to argue that BMW has appeased all of it&#039;s consumer base by producing exceedingly versatile cars.  Take the new Z4 for example.  Yes, by default when you step inside and drive - it&#039;s plush, a touch cushy, and ready for a trip over the roughest roads through downtown traffic.  

But ultimately, the car has been designed with performance parameters in mind, and has had this comfort added as an alternate drive experience, creating it&#039;s duel personality.  It all changes with the M button.  And while it&#039;s not faster than the Porsche, it&#039;s not exactly far behind.  BMW did not first create a cushy car based on it&#039;s comfortable virtues, and then add in performance character as an afterthought.  

From it&#039;s basic layout to the finer details, BMW always creates a basic sports car, then modifies it to suit it&#039;s intended purpose.  That&#039;s why in BMW&#039;s history, not one car departing from the factory in Munich has strayed from 50/50 weight balance or RWD.  During the design process, every car they produce has circled the N&#039;Ring.  At it&#039;s very heart, I believe every BMW is still a sports car.  

The best news is yet to come.  BMW is investing heavily in resourses that will allow them to build the purest, dynamic and efficient cars to date.  From the great weight savings of their metal hardening facility to the new aero lab, BMW is working harder than ever to put us behind the wheel of a more accomodating, much safer, more efficient, faster and more dynamic E30.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, but I must agree to disagree.  It&#8217;s true that modern vehicle expectations in safety/comfort/etc., have distanced the driver somewhat from the pure, lightweight and direct driving experience of years gone by.  But as technology advances, so does the feel of dynamism in BMW&#8217;s cars in certain respects.  For example, take throttle control.  While the E30 was probably one of BMW&#8217;s purest renditions of the automobile, it lacked the crisp, immediate throttle response made possible on new BMW&#8217;s by drive-by-wire technology/improvements in injection technology, valve train tech, etc.  </p>
<p>So while I enjoy the 2500 lb curb weight of the E30, I&#8217;m confident in the direction that BMW has taken its design principles of making every car a sporting car, if not a sports car.  </p>
<p>I would also have to argue that BMW has appeased all of it&#8217;s consumer base by producing exceedingly versatile cars.  Take the new Z4 for example.  Yes, by default when you step inside and drive &#8211; it&#8217;s plush, a touch cushy, and ready for a trip over the roughest roads through downtown traffic.  </p>
<p>But ultimately, the car has been designed with performance parameters in mind, and has had this comfort added as an alternate drive experience, creating it&#8217;s duel personality.  It all changes with the M button.  And while it&#8217;s not faster than the Porsche, it&#8217;s not exactly far behind.  BMW did not first create a cushy car based on it&#8217;s comfortable virtues, and then add in performance character as an afterthought.  </p>
<p>From it&#8217;s basic layout to the finer details, BMW always creates a basic sports car, then modifies it to suit it&#8217;s intended purpose.  That&#8217;s why in BMW&#8217;s history, not one car departing from the factory in Munich has strayed from 50/50 weight balance or RWD.  During the design process, every car they produce has circled the N&#8217;Ring.  At it&#8217;s very heart, I believe every BMW is still a sports car.  </p>
<p>The best news is yet to come.  BMW is investing heavily in resourses that will allow them to build the purest, dynamic and efficient cars to date.  From the great weight savings of their metal hardening facility to the new aero lab, BMW is working harder than ever to put us behind the wheel of a more accomodating, much safer, more efficient, faster and more dynamic E30.</p>
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		<title>By: Gunnar</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 03:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nicely said.  And beautiful shot of the old 323i. Almost makes me want one. And then I remember...

That the early generations 3-Series (late 70s, 80s), for all their lean and sporting intentions were cars of limited scope. 

They were cramped, loud, harsh riding, high on cost, low on content, squirrely on wet pavement, and worthless in the snow. Style wise, the tall greenhouse cabin that&#039;s part of the E21 and E30&#039;s three box design is an acquired taste.

To their great merit, however, these old 3er&#039;s engaged the driver and provided magnificent feedback. Corner after corner, the act of turning the wheel and feeling the machine respond was a reward in and of itself. 

For the rest of the time - traffic, commutes, A-C-D-B around town errands, the act of driving these older, wonderfully in-tune cars was a chore that wore on the driver.

To be sure, BMWs are a little or a lot soft these days - depending on the model and your preference. I&#039;d argue that the M3 is spot on while the 7-Series has gone to mush.

But the balance towards more comfort and practicality overall is right for a car company that produces luxury performance vehicles - not sports cars.

That BMW&#039;s able to reach this balance of comfort and performance better than anyone else where it concerns crossovers is more remarkable still. 

To wit, the car&#039;s still here. And it&#039;s comfier than ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nicely said.  And beautiful shot of the old 323i. Almost makes me want one. And then I remember&#8230;</p>
<p>That the early generations 3-Series (late 70s, 80s), for all their lean and sporting intentions were cars of limited scope. </p>
<p>They were cramped, loud, harsh riding, high on cost, low on content, squirrely on wet pavement, and worthless in the snow. Style wise, the tall greenhouse cabin that&#8217;s part of the E21 and E30&#8242;s three box design is an acquired taste.</p>
<p>To their great merit, however, these old 3er&#8217;s engaged the driver and provided magnificent feedback. Corner after corner, the act of turning the wheel and feeling the machine respond was a reward in and of itself. </p>
<p>For the rest of the time &#8211; traffic, commutes, A-C-D-B around town errands, the act of driving these older, wonderfully in-tune cars was a chore that wore on the driver.</p>
<p>To be sure, BMWs are a little or a lot soft these days &#8211; depending on the model and your preference. I&#8217;d argue that the M3 is spot on while the 7-Series has gone to mush.</p>
<p>But the balance towards more comfort and practicality overall is right for a car company that produces luxury performance vehicles &#8211; not sports cars.</p>
<p>That BMW&#8217;s able to reach this balance of comfort and performance better than anyone else where it concerns crossovers is more remarkable still. </p>
<p>To wit, the car&#8217;s still here. And it&#8217;s comfier than ever.</p>
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