Comments on: Poll: Which BMW diesel would you like to see in the U.S.? http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/28/poll-which-bmw-diesel-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-us/ BMW News, Reviews, Test Drives, Photos And Videos Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:30:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Diesel Bmw Cars | BMW Photos Blog http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/28/poll-which-bmw-diesel-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-us/#comment-336189 Diesel Bmw Cars | BMW Photos Blog Sat, 09 Apr 2011 18:00:56 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17741#comment-336189 [...] diesel bmw cars bmwblog.com [...] [...] diesel bmw cars bmwblog.com [...]

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]]> By: derek http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/28/poll-which-bmw-diesel-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-us/#comment-232322 derek Tue, 29 Jun 2010 01:57:48 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17741#comment-232322 Hi back home I drove only german diesels as most of my family and friends>. As much as you are wright in some aspects , inmany you are way behind a modern technic. As far as 320 d you can pull few more MPG, mabey , if you good driver> but here in trafic jams etc noone care for that in retirn of 3-5 MPG!! Also into technicat dep. many producers like MB or Audi, for biger stronger carrs like E, A6 etc. with 6 cyl. diesel discontinue manuals due to fact that manual transmitions can not handle tht kind of torque ( of coourse 2.0 L is kind a feble so it will handle) Also progressing DSG transmition development will bring much neded change soon. Geat chnge faster than human can ever do, with confor in full automatic mode and sportined and safety of immedaite manula shifts. Also for 2011 most new cars with decent size ( mind that 5 series is midsize in US and 3 series is compact/ subcompact) will come with ne ZF 8 gear automatic. How will you handlle that in manual. Also 6 cyl diesels manage up to 40 MPG and withtoeque of 560 NM you do wish 2 or 3 overdrive gears to utilize that in interstae driving and hit unparallel effciency. Yet if I am bach in tight and crowded old country I will go for 4 cyl in notiome !!! Also as of today 1 gal (3.98l ) of diesel cost $2.79 / do your math and se why guys here can aford to drive biger and bit less effcient cars. Hi back home I drove only german diesels as most of my family and friends>. As much as you are wright in some aspects , inmany you are way behind a modern technic.
As far as 320 d you can pull few more MPG, mabey , if you good driver> but here in trafic jams etc noone care for that in retirn of 3-5 MPG!!
Also into technicat dep. many producers like MB or Audi, for biger stronger carrs like E, A6 etc. with 6 cyl. diesel discontinue manuals due to fact that manual transmitions can not handle tht kind of torque ( of coourse 2.0 L is kind a feble so it will handle)
Also progressing DSG transmition development will bring much neded change soon. Geat chnge faster than human can ever do, with confor in full automatic mode and sportined and safety of immedaite manula shifts.
Also for 2011 most new cars with decent size ( mind that 5 series is midsize in US and 3 series is compact/ subcompact) will come with ne ZF 8 gear automatic. How will you handlle that in manual. Also 6 cyl diesels manage up to 40 MPG and withtoeque of 560 NM you do wish 2 or 3 overdrive gears to utilize that in interstae driving and hit unparallel effciency.
Yet if I am bach in tight and crowded old country I will go for 4 cyl in notiome !!!
Also as of today 1 gal (3.98l ) of diesel cost $2.79 / do your math and se why guys here can aford to drive biger and bit less effcient cars.

]]> By: Bill http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/28/poll-which-bmw-diesel-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-us/#comment-162361 Bill Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:05:42 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17741#comment-162361 I would like to see the 330d sold here. I think it has the best combination of mpg and performance. I would like to see the 330d sold here. I think it has the best combination of mpg and performance.

]]> By: Doc Santino http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/28/poll-which-bmw-diesel-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-us/#comment-140663 Doc Santino Mon, 03 Aug 2009 19:27:53 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17741#comment-140663 If BMW ever came out with it, I'd love to get my hands on the 730d with a manual transmission and xdrive. I doubt they'll actually make this available. It's a tough call. I might just hold out and see if Audi comes out with a tdi model with quattro and a manual transmission. If BMW ever came out with it, I’d love to get my hands on the 730d with a manual transmission and xdrive. I doubt they’ll actually make this available. It’s a tough call. I might just hold out and see if Audi comes out with a tdi model with quattro and a manual transmission.

]]> By: Vitric http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/28/poll-which-bmw-diesel-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-us/#comment-139388 Vitric Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:53:06 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17741#comment-139388 Nice try, but everyone else here knows thats incorrect, and even the UK configurator tells you that you can't deselect the auto gearbox from the packages list. Nice try, but everyone else here knows thats incorrect, and even the UK configurator tells you that you can’t deselect the auto gearbox from the packages list.

]]> By: Mauro Corti http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/28/poll-which-bmw-diesel-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-us/#comment-139210 Mauro Corti Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:15:57 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17741#comment-139210 @Vitric Well in Europe you can have every bmw with manual transmission, even 35i or 35d @Vitric

Well in Europe you can have every bmw with manual transmission, even 35i or 35d

]]> By: Gord http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/28/poll-which-bmw-diesel-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-us/#comment-139171 Gord Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:14:30 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17741#comment-139171 I think the 320d and 535d seem appropriate. The others seem fine except for the 7 series diesel, because BMW NA seem hesistant to bring any 7 series to America without a V8 or V12. I think the 320d and 535d seem appropriate. The others seem fine except for the 7 series diesel, because BMW NA seem hesistant to bring any 7 series to America without a V8 or V12.

]]> By: Vitric http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/28/poll-which-bmw-diesel-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-us/#comment-139019 Vitric Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:29:49 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17741#comment-139019 The 123d coupe. The most powerful one (at least I think?) still available with a manual transmission... mmmmm... 300ft/lb straight to the rear wheels *drool* The 123d coupe. The most powerful one (at least I think?) still available with a manual transmission… mmmmm… 300ft/lb straight to the rear wheels *drool*

]]> By: rhnorb http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/28/poll-which-bmw-diesel-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-us/#comment-139005 rhnorb Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:59:28 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17741#comment-139005 You've left out the perfect car for a diesel...the 5 series wagon. You’ve left out the perfect car for a diesel…the 5 series wagon.

]]> By: Mauro Corti http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/28/poll-which-bmw-diesel-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-us/#comment-138999 Mauro Corti Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:55:02 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17741#comment-138999 I would die to have the same price you american people can get on a bmw or on every other car.. in your country with 19k € someone can buy a 250-300hp car, here in Italy and all over Europe you get a mid size car with something that would like to be called an engine... :) I hate u!!! XD I would die to have the same price you american people can get on a bmw or on every other car.. in your country with 19k € someone can buy a 250-300hp car, here in Italy and all over Europe you get a mid size car with something that would like to be called an engine… :) I hate u!!! XD

]]> By: kamil http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/28/poll-which-bmw-diesel-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-us/#comment-138994 kamil Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:02:38 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17741#comment-138994 I'd like to pick two: - 535d, which I was given a ride in (in France) and it's an awesome highway cruiser; would love to drive that cross country, and - 320d, cuz the 335d can be a little too much, especially too much money. Truth is, if BMW brings more diesels here, it would be one more engine used in few models, so maybe somthing like the 320d and 120d. 535d won't make it here cuz the E60 is at the end of its life. The next gen 5-series may be here based on how well the X5d and 335d are selling currently. I’d like to pick two:
- 535d, which I was given a ride in (in France) and it’s an awesome highway cruiser; would love to drive that cross country, and
- 320d, cuz the 335d can be a little too much, especially too much money.

Truth is, if BMW brings more diesels here, it would be one more engine used in few models, so maybe somthing like the 320d and 120d.

535d won’t make it here cuz the E60 is at the end of its life. The next gen 5-series may be here based on how well the X5d and 335d are selling currently.

]]> By: mark http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/28/poll-which-bmw-diesel-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-us/#comment-138990 mark Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:13:53 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17741#comment-138990 Car culture in the states seems always to have been different than in Europe. Maybe an influence of the movie industry, all those old movies in the 50's and 60's from college romance to thrillers glamourised big car culture. I remember watching them when I was a child and loving the depiction of American but feeling no connection with it whatsoever. In Europe probably our most iconic cars from the 50's and 60's were the Mini, the Citroen 2CV and the Morris Minor. :) I was watching the TV show Weeds recently and the main character went from driving a Range Rover to a prius. Hey times are a changing! Anyway,,, driving automatic takes away a big part of the experience in my opinion. Oh, and hey Lance . I hope you're not saying folks in the States, Canada and USA are lazier than in Europe! :) Car culture in the states seems always to have been different than in Europe.

Maybe an influence of the movie industry, all those old movies in the 50′s and 60′s from college romance to thrillers glamourised big car culture. I remember watching them when I was a child and loving the depiction of American but feeling no connection with it whatsoever. In Europe probably our most iconic cars from the 50′s and 60′s were the Mini, the Citroen 2CV and the Morris Minor. :) I was watching the TV show Weeds recently and the main character went from driving a Range Rover to a prius. Hey times are a changing!

Anyway,,, driving automatic takes away a big part of the experience in my opinion.
Oh, and hey Lance . I hope you’re not saying folks in the States, Canada and USA are lazier than in Europe! :)

]]> By: Lance http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/28/poll-which-bmw-diesel-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-us/#comment-138986 Lance Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:21:00 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17741#comment-138986 Maybe it is because of the human's tendency to be lazy. A true sports car should tend towards a manual gear box... don't know why the American and Canadian consumers prefer auto. Apparently it is the same in Hong Kong where all BMWs sold are auto. Maybe it is because of the human’s tendency to be lazy. A true sports car should tend towards a manual gear box… don’t know why the American and Canadian consumers prefer auto. Apparently it is the same in Hong Kong where all BMWs sold are auto.

]]> By: jkp http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/28/poll-which-bmw-diesel-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-us/#comment-138980 jkp Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:32:25 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17741#comment-138980 I'd love to have seen a 123d coupe available. In fact, I would have bought one of those instead of the 135i I ended up getting, no question. If a 123d hatchback or an X1-23d is available, it will receive VERY STRONG consideration for our next vehicle, when my wife's car needs to be replaced (probably in 2-3 years.) I’d love to have seen a 123d coupe available. In fact, I would have bought one of those instead of the 135i I ended up getting, no question.

If a 123d hatchback or an X1-23d is available, it will receive VERY STRONG consideration for our next vehicle, when my wife’s car needs to be replaced (probably in 2-3 years.)

]]> By: JakeC http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/28/poll-which-bmw-diesel-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-us/#comment-138976 JakeC Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:02:30 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17741#comment-138976 123d gets my vote. I think it complements the 335d and the x5d we already have in the States. Great way for BMW to increase the MPG for the CAFE requirements coming up and provide another diesel to the line up. J 123d gets my vote. I think it complements the 335d and the x5d we already have in the States. Great way for BMW to increase the MPG for the CAFE requirements coming up and provide another diesel to the line up.

J

]]> By: whitby http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/28/poll-which-bmw-diesel-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-us/#comment-138972 whitby Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:23:04 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17741#comment-138972 Diesels have a bad reputation here in the US due to the poor efforts by GM and others in the past. Also the cost argument is not as compelling. In Europe diesel fuel has less taxes than gasoline/petrol so it is generally cheaper than petrol. Given the fact that diesels appear to be more expensive to manufacture (possibly because there are not so many made) the total cost of ownership of diesels can be considerably more than petrol powered vehicles in the short to medium term. Note that I think some of the mpg figures quoted ignore the fact that the US and imperial gallon are not the same. The imperial gallon is 25% larger than the US gallon (16 fluid oz to the US gallon, 20 fluid oz to the imperial gallon). I may be wrong and if so I apologize. Diesels have a bad reputation here in the US due to the poor efforts by GM and others in the past. Also the cost argument is not as compelling. In Europe diesel fuel has less taxes than gasoline/petrol so it is generally cheaper than petrol. Given the fact that diesels appear to be more expensive to manufacture (possibly because there are not so many made) the total cost of ownership of diesels can be considerably more than petrol powered vehicles in the short to medium term. Note that I think some of the mpg figures quoted ignore the fact that the US and imperial gallon are not the same. The imperial gallon is 25% larger than the US gallon (16 fluid oz to the US gallon, 20 fluid oz to the imperial gallon). I may be wrong and if so I apologize.

]]> By: babak http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/28/poll-which-bmw-diesel-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-us/#comment-138965 babak Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:56:31 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17741#comment-138965 Ya its definitely better to get a boring Prius instead of a fun to drive, torque BMW. Ya its definitely better to get a boring Prius instead of a fun to drive, torque BMW.

]]> By: babak http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/28/poll-which-bmw-diesel-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-us/#comment-138964 babak Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:55:45 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17741#comment-138964 We still have most of BMW's manual offerings. We just cant get it in the X3. Otherwise, every other BMW that offers a manual tranny in other parts of the world is available with manual here as well, but you are right. Only few people get manual, and it will affect the resale value. I don't know why, but Americans and Canadians believe that the biggest car, with the biggest engine (regardless of efficiency or not) and an slushbox is the way to go. We still have most of BMW’s manual offerings. We just cant get it in the X3. Otherwise, every other BMW that offers a manual tranny in other parts of the world is available with manual here as well, but you are right. Only few people get manual, and it will affect the resale value. I don’t know why, but Americans and Canadians believe that the biggest car, with the biggest engine (regardless of efficiency or not) and an slushbox is the way to go.

]]> By: Parker Despain http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/28/poll-which-bmw-diesel-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-us/#comment-138955 Parker Despain Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:20:36 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17741#comment-138955 Id love to have a 320d daily. I love the E90 chassis more than anything, if it got good gas mileage it would be perfect! Id love to have a 320d daily. I love the E90 chassis more than anything, if it got good gas mileage it would be perfect!

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