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	<title>Comments on: BMW to give $4,500 Eco Credit toward your purchase of a 335d or an X5 xDrive35d</title>
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		<title>By: Wey</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/24/bmw-to-give-4500-eco-credit-toward-your-purchase-of-a-335d-or-an-x5-xdrive35d/#comment-265709</link>
		<dc:creator>Wey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the Run around from BMW 800 number as well as BMW dealer.  I was told that Eco credit was not available at time of purchase on 7/30/10. Question is if Eco credit was available But not provided is there any recourse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the Run around from BMW 800 number as well as BMW dealer.  I was told that Eco credit was not available at time of purchase on 7/30/10. Question is if Eco credit was available But not provided is there any recourse?</p>
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		<title>By: Major Challenges Ahead in Addressing Auto Emissions &#124; BNET Auto Blog &#124; BNET</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/24/bmw-to-give-4500-eco-credit-toward-your-purchase-of-a-335d-or-an-x5-xdrive35d/#comment-167033</link>
		<dc:creator>Major Challenges Ahead in Addressing Auto Emissions &#124; BNET Auto Blog &#124; BNET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of BMW’s new “eco-diesels,” the 335d and the X5, were slow, so in August, the company offered a $4,500 “eco-credit” (modeled on “Cash for Clunkers”) that, in effect, brought their prices in line with their [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of BMW’s new “eco-diesels,” the 335d and the X5, were slow, so in August, the company offered a $4,500 “eco-credit” (modeled on “Cash for Clunkers”) that, in effect, brought their prices in line with their [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Luros</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/24/bmw-to-give-4500-eco-credit-toward-your-purchase-of-a-335d-or-an-x5-xdrive35d/#comment-138887</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Luros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;American&#039;s&quot; what, exactly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;American&#8217;s&#8221; what, exactly?</p>
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		<title>By: Dede</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/24/bmw-to-give-4500-eco-credit-toward-your-purchase-of-a-335d-or-an-x5-xdrive35d/#comment-138721</link>
		<dc:creator>Dede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BMW 23d twin turbo engine features 200 bhp and (gulp) an unbelievable 295 ft lbs of torque!  
41.3 mpg (US) on the combined european cycle
31 mpg city
and a stunning 51 mpg highway based on my conversion from the UK figures.
Would love to have this vehicle!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BMW 23d twin turbo engine features 200 bhp and (gulp) an unbelievable 295 ft lbs of torque!<br />
41.3 mpg (US) on the combined european cycle<br />
31 mpg city<br />
and a stunning 51 mpg highway based on my conversion from the UK figures.<br />
Would love to have this vehicle!</p>
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		<title>By: Dede</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/24/bmw-to-give-4500-eco-credit-toward-your-purchase-of-a-335d-or-an-x5-xdrive35d/#comment-138720</link>
		<dc:creator>Dede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jkp....my thoughts exactly.  I am looking at ordering a fully loaded 328i, looked at the 335d after the incentives, and think it is overkill.  Would have ordered a 323d though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jkp&#8230;.my thoughts exactly.  I am looking at ordering a fully loaded 328i, looked at the 335d after the incentives, and think it is overkill.  Would have ordered a 323d though.</p>
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		<title>By: jkp</title>
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		<dc:creator>jkp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mauro, what are you talking about?  The US-spec 128i and 328i comes with only 230 BHP and 200 ft-lbs of torque - and the 328i is very much the &#039;bread and butter&#039; car for the US market.  The 335d comes with 265 BHP and over 400 ft-lbs of torque.  It is a better performer than the standard 3-series by that score alone.

The truth is that the 335d is a bit of a bad market fit because it is overkill.  The sort of person interested in the economy that a diesel sedan has to offer isn&#039;t going to be attracted to the nearly $50,000 MSRP of a well-equipped 335d.  The 6 cyl diesel BMW brought over to the states is a remarkable achievement, but it&#039;s an answer to a question that wasn&#039;t being asked.  BMW should&#039;ve brought over the amazing 200 HP/300 TQ turbo 4-cylinder diesel and made it available in the 1 and 3 series.  It would&#039;ve fit right in with the 230 HP/300 TQ engine already available and could&#039;ve been priced to sell, especially in these tighter economic times.  The 4-cyl turbo diesel is truly the &#039;have your (performance/economy) cake and eat it, too&quot; engine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mauro, what are you talking about?  The US-spec 128i and 328i comes with only 230 BHP and 200 ft-lbs of torque &#8211; and the 328i is very much the &#8216;bread and butter&#8217; car for the US market.  The 335d comes with 265 BHP and over 400 ft-lbs of torque.  It is a better performer than the standard 3-series by that score alone.</p>
<p>The truth is that the 335d is a bit of a bad market fit because it is overkill.  The sort of person interested in the economy that a diesel sedan has to offer isn&#8217;t going to be attracted to the nearly $50,000 MSRP of a well-equipped 335d.  The 6 cyl diesel BMW brought over to the states is a remarkable achievement, but it&#8217;s an answer to a question that wasn&#8217;t being asked.  BMW should&#8217;ve brought over the amazing 200 HP/300 TQ turbo 4-cylinder diesel and made it available in the 1 and 3 series.  It would&#8217;ve fit right in with the 230 HP/300 TQ engine already available and could&#8217;ve been priced to sell, especially in these tighter economic times.  The 4-cyl turbo diesel is truly the &#8216;have your (performance/economy) cake and eat it, too&#8221; engine.</p>
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		<title>By: Mauro Corti</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/24/bmw-to-give-4500-eco-credit-toward-your-purchase-of-a-335d-or-an-x5-xdrive35d/#comment-138681</link>
		<dc:creator>Mauro Corti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dede

In US BMW sells cars with 300+bhp, how could you try to sell a 200bhp diesel engine in that market? You are saying BMW should sell an engine with 200bhp in a market where NOW they only sell 300 plus bhp cars... that&#039;s odd don&#039;t you think? It would be easier to sell really powerful diesel engine like the 35d or the 30d I think.

Until you&#039;ll have a 4cyl petrol engine, you&#039;ll not be ready for a 4cyl diesel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dede</p>
<p>In US BMW sells cars with 300+bhp, how could you try to sell a 200bhp diesel engine in that market? You are saying BMW should sell an engine with 200bhp in a market where NOW they only sell 300 plus bhp cars&#8230; that&#8217;s odd don&#8217;t you think? It would be easier to sell really powerful diesel engine like the 35d or the 30d I think.</p>
<p>Until you&#8217;ll have a 4cyl petrol engine, you&#8217;ll not be ready for a 4cyl diesel.</p>
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		<title>By: Dede</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/24/bmw-to-give-4500-eco-credit-toward-your-purchase-of-a-335d-or-an-x5-xdrive35d/#comment-138642</link>
		<dc:creator>Dede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is some discussion on other sites about why they aren&#039;t selling well.  In my opinion it&#039;s the following:
1. American&#039;s still have a misunderstanding of what clean diesel is.  
2.  American&#039;s think not a drivers car and they need to be showing the car in action.
3.  American&#039;s think diesel is hard to find - which is wrong.
4.  The 335d and the X5 xDrive35d are the wrong models to sell here to reintroduce diesel.  They should be offering 1, 3, and X3 series with the 23d engine.  People will compare the car to the base 3-liter engine and not the twin turbo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is some discussion on other sites about why they aren&#8217;t selling well.  In my opinion it&#8217;s the following:<br />
1. American&#8217;s still have a misunderstanding of what clean diesel is.<br />
2.  American&#8217;s think not a drivers car and they need to be showing the car in action.<br />
3.  American&#8217;s think diesel is hard to find &#8211; which is wrong.<br />
4.  The 335d and the X5 xDrive35d are the wrong models to sell here to reintroduce diesel.  They should be offering 1, 3, and X3 series with the 23d engine.  People will compare the car to the base 3-liter engine and not the twin turbo.</p>
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		<title>By: Vitric</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/24/bmw-to-give-4500-eco-credit-toward-your-purchase-of-a-335d-or-an-x5-xdrive35d/#comment-138347</link>
		<dc:creator>Vitric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 05:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad neither have manual transmissions..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad neither have manual transmissions..</p>
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