Comments on: 2011 BMW 5 Series enter the Final Evaluation Phase http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/10/2011-bmw-5-series-enter-the-final-evaluation-phase/ BMW News, Reviews, Test Drives, Photos And Videos Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:00:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Lance http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/10/2011-bmw-5-series-enter-the-final-evaluation-phase/#comment-137202 Lance Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:24:09 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17116#comment-137202 BMW have themselves to blame for people rejecting their cars before they're even properly out... this is the result of disappointing the public time and time again with terrible designs such as the X1. Another thing that I have noticed: Why do recent BMW's centre screen look so cheap (look at this 5 Series)? Where did the classy indented screens behind a clear shield go to, like the ones in the 3 Series E90? This is stepping backwards for BMW. I feel like I am looking at a horrible C Class pop up screen with these cheap displays.... shame! BMW have themselves to blame for people rejecting their cars before they’re even properly out… this is the result of disappointing the public time and time again with terrible designs such as the X1.

Another thing that I have noticed: Why do recent BMW’s centre screen look so cheap (look at this 5 Series)? Where did the classy indented screens behind a clear shield go to, like the ones in the 3 Series E90? This is stepping backwards for BMW. I feel like I am looking at a horrible C Class pop up screen with these cheap displays…. shame!

]]> By: Giom http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/10/2011-bmw-5-series-enter-the-final-evaluation-phase/#comment-137145 Giom Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:18:02 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17116#comment-137145 It seems a lot of people see past the camo tape, cause they crit the look of the car from spy photos. Unfortunatly, I can't see past it, so no way I will comment on the cars looks and design. But hey, it's become the standard practice to reject new Beemers before they're out. I woun't be part of that! It seems a lot of people see past the camo tape, cause they crit the look of the car from spy photos. Unfortunatly, I can’t see past it, so no way I will comment on the cars looks and design.

But hey, it’s become the standard practice to reject new Beemers before they’re out. I woun’t be part of that!

]]> By: Lance http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/10/2011-bmw-5-series-enter-the-final-evaluation-phase/#comment-137093 Lance Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:43:07 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17116#comment-137093 what are you talking about regarding the cheap brakes? what are you talking about regarding the cheap brakes?

]]> By: BA http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/10/2011-bmw-5-series-enter-the-final-evaluation-phase/#comment-137064 BA Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:24:46 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17116#comment-137064 that is one ugly steering wheel! that is one ugly steering wheel!

]]> By: Nizer http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/10/2011-bmw-5-series-enter-the-final-evaluation-phase/#comment-137025 Nizer Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:37:16 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17116#comment-137025 Front end should be an improvement over current 5 Series but other than that it's I'm decidedly unimpressed. What's not working for me? Car looks taller than outgoing model; the character line that runs from top of front fender to taillights is toned down from concepts, which contributes to very slab-sided look; single rear exhaust outlet remains; and while it can't be seen here other photos make it clear BMW is still cheaping out on brakes. Front end should be an improvement over current 5 Series but other than that it’s I’m decidedly unimpressed. What’s not working for me? Car looks taller than outgoing model; the character line that runs from top of front fender to taillights is toned down from concepts, which contributes to very slab-sided look; single rear exhaust outlet remains; and while it can’t be seen here other photos make it clear BMW is still cheaping out on brakes.

]]> By: Jag http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/10/2011-bmw-5-series-enter-the-final-evaluation-phase/#comment-137023 Jag Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:26:09 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17116#comment-137023 Why don't u think at a different angle? Which Merc to compete with 1-Series coupe and convertible, with 5-Series GT, with X1? BTW, Merc had to build the ML to match X5 and the GLK for X3. Why don’t u think at a different angle? Which Merc to compete with 1-Series coupe and convertible, with 5-Series GT, with X1? BTW, Merc had to build the ML to match X5 and the GLK for X3.

]]> By: joe http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/10/2011-bmw-5-series-enter-the-final-evaluation-phase/#comment-137013 joe Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:22:32 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17116#comment-137013 when it comes to diesel performance from the entry level 520d up to 535d (the majority of bmw owners in europe) no other car maker can match bmw s performance. audi and mercedes are great cars if you are willing to spend 70,000 or more. when it comes to diesel performance from the entry level 520d up to 535d (the majority of bmw owners in europe) no other car maker can match bmw s performance. audi and mercedes are great cars if you are willing to spend 70,000 or more.

]]> By: viper http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/10/2011-bmw-5-series-enter-the-final-evaluation-phase/#comment-137009 viper Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:55:39 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17116#comment-137009 yeah I did compare a 3series with the E class.....nevermind , I think there will always be a bmw mercedes rival , like 5 vs E , 7 vs S , 3 vs C....but there is no bmw that goes with CL , SL , GL , SLR , CLS......I dunno bmw has nothing compared to these cars and its kind of sad , even audis got r8 , a supercar , Q7 , they got V12 diesel , they are coming with A7 , a rival with the CLS , when I look at it all bmw doesnt appear to be competitive nowdays yeah I did compare a 3series with the E class…..nevermind , I think there will always be a bmw mercedes rival , like 5 vs E , 7 vs S , 3 vs C….but there is no bmw that goes with CL , SL , GL , SLR , CLS……I dunno bmw has nothing compared to these cars and its kind of sad , even audis got r8 , a supercar , Q7 , they got V12 diesel , they are coming with A7 , a rival with the CLS , when I look at it all bmw doesnt appear to be competitive nowdays

]]> By: joe http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/10/2011-bmw-5-series-enter-the-final-evaluation-phase/#comment-137007 joe Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:47:42 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17116#comment-137007 mercedes and audi can not compete with bmw unless they improve the performance of their cars. the new e class look allright but its performance is not promising mercedes and audi can not compete with bmw unless they improve the performance of their cars. the new e class look allright but its performance is not promising

]]> By: Jordan http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/10/2011-bmw-5-series-enter-the-final-evaluation-phase/#comment-136979 Jordan Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:30:57 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17116#comment-136979 Have u seen the new Jaguar XJ?... it looks SLICK!! the stock exhaust sounds fantastic! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsswycdwBEY Have u seen the new Jaguar XJ?… it looks SLICK!! the stock exhaust sounds fantastic! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsswycdwBEY

]]> By: Rad Dockery http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/10/2011-bmw-5-series-enter-the-final-evaluation-phase/#comment-136978 Rad Dockery Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:19:13 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17116#comment-136978 I have to agree, Audi is starting to make noise. My Dad and I were at a BMW 3 series comparison day and drove the new A4. The drive isn't as great the 3 but its getting there. Will be interesting to see how the new 5 will compare against the new E and Jaguar XF. Plus with pressure from the Cadillac CTS and A6 - the market for new BMW owners will get tougher. Which is why the F10 will be so important. I have to agree, Audi is starting to make noise. My Dad and I were at a BMW 3 series comparison day and drove the new A4. The drive isn’t as great the 3 but its getting there.

Will be interesting to see how the new 5 will compare against the new E and Jaguar XF. Plus with pressure from the Cadillac CTS and A6 – the market for new BMW owners will get tougher. Which is why the F10 will be so important.

]]> By: Jordan http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/10/2011-bmw-5-series-enter-the-final-evaluation-phase/#comment-136900 Jordan Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:42:20 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17116#comment-136900 If i was in your situation I would think the exact same thing. I'd want my friends E220 CDI. The 318i is the lowest model they offered at that time... it's so stripped out and barebones, most other manufacturers that cost a fraction would have more "luxurious" things than in the 318i. A 328i would be a huge difference, all the little things on the outside and then all the technology on the inside, you'd prob think it was a whole new car. You're comparing the lowest of one class of car to a car that is a whole class higher and in about the middle of it's class. It's not that fair and you can be guaranteed that if someone threw me the keys to both cars, I would have dropped the BMW keys right away and walked towards the Mercedes. I just think you had a bad, unfair experience. If you bought a new BMW, especially this new 5 series coming out, or the new 7 that just came out, and you got some nice packages on it and didn't go to the base barebones model, I think you'll change your mind about BMW. You may still not want the BMW, but at least you can know that for sure with a fair comparison. I just read a review on the E220 CDI, a 2006 model tho, and it seems like a really nice car. Very nice ride quality and MB has made great diesels for a long time. And yes, I believe BMWs rival right now is Audi. If i was in your situation I would think the exact same thing. I’d want my friends E220 CDI. The 318i is the lowest model they offered at that time… it’s so stripped out and barebones, most other manufacturers that cost a fraction would have more “luxurious” things than in the 318i. A 328i would be a huge difference, all the little things on the outside and then all the technology on the inside, you’d prob think it was a whole new car. You’re comparing the lowest of one class of car to a car that is a whole class higher and in about the middle of it’s class. It’s not that fair and you can be guaranteed that if someone threw me the keys to both cars, I would have dropped the BMW keys right away and walked towards the Mercedes.

I just think you had a bad, unfair experience. If you bought a new BMW, especially this new 5 series coming out, or the new 7 that just came out, and you got some nice packages on it and didn’t go to the base barebones model, I think you’ll change your mind about BMW. You may still not want the BMW, but at least you can know that for sure with a fair comparison.

I just read a review on the E220 CDI, a 2006 model tho, and it seems like a really nice car. Very nice ride quality and MB has made great diesels for a long time. And yes, I believe BMWs rival right now is Audi.

]]> By: viper http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/10/2011-bmw-5-series-enter-the-final-evaluation-phase/#comment-136890 viper Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:00:23 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17116#comment-136890 thanx dude... .no I mean I owned a 318i once....and my friend had a e220 cdi....I looked ridiculous next to him even the 5er was weak with this e class...that was five years ago , I simply think that Mercedes Benz is a better car , I respect BMW alot but nowdays I think bmws rival is truly audi. thanx dude…
.no I mean I owned a 318i once….and my friend had a e220 cdi….I looked ridiculous next to him even the 5er was weak with this e class…that was five years ago , I simply think that Mercedes Benz is a better car , I respect BMW alot but nowdays I think bmws rival is truly audi.

]]> By: Jordan http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/10/2011-bmw-5-series-enter-the-final-evaluation-phase/#comment-136783 Jordan Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:20:41 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17116#comment-136783 viper.... seriously... it's great that your a Mercedes fan but why are you on this BMW blog then?? this blog was meant for BMW enthusiasts and fans to read about BMW current events and comment on them. it's a way of bringing together BMW fans to talk about a topic that everyone has in common: their enjoyment of BMWs. this blog is not meant for you.... you should consider going to a Mercedes blog and sharing your thoughts there. I am pretty unbiased considering the fact that I'm a BMW fan; I can acknowledge the fact that Mercedes and Audi both make some great cars and both have some technology that BMW could benefit from, and like wise with BMW. everyone benefits from competition and if you are only focused on one particular brand and don't bother to keep yourself informed about other brands and their strong points, you'd fail as a business. i guess you could say i have a business perspective while still being a fan of BMW... That said... i'm sure everyone would appreciate if there weren't any "haters" here. it doesn't make anyone's day better and I'm sure Mercedes fans wouldn't appreciate a BMW fan commenting on their blog or forum and "hating" on Mercedes. please consider visiting http://www.benzinsider.com/ Cheers, Jordan viper…. seriously… it’s great that your a Mercedes fan but why are you on this BMW blog then?? this blog was meant for BMW enthusiasts and fans to read about BMW current events and comment on them. it’s a way of bringing together BMW fans to talk about a topic that everyone has in common: their enjoyment of BMWs.

this blog is not meant for you…. you should consider going to a Mercedes blog and sharing your thoughts there. I am pretty unbiased considering the fact that I’m a BMW fan; I can acknowledge the fact that Mercedes and Audi both make some great cars and both have some technology that BMW could benefit from, and like wise with BMW. everyone benefits from competition and if you are only focused on one particular brand and don’t bother to keep yourself informed about other brands and their strong points, you’d fail as a business. i guess you could say i have a business perspective while still being a fan of BMW…

That said… i’m sure everyone would appreciate if there weren’t any “haters” here. it doesn’t make anyone’s day better and I’m sure Mercedes fans wouldn’t appreciate a BMW fan commenting on their blog or forum and “hating” on Mercedes. please consider visiting http://www.benzinsider.com/

Cheers,
Jordan

]]> By: viper http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/10/2011-bmw-5-series-enter-the-final-evaluation-phase/#comment-136773 viper Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:32:07 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17116#comment-136773 john pamh...u need to get ur eyes and head checked.....MB looks better and thats the bottom line. john pamh…u need to get ur eyes and head checked…..MB looks better and thats the bottom line.

]]> By: wazon http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/10/2011-bmw-5-series-enter-the-final-evaluation-phase/#comment-136755 wazon Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:52:28 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17116#comment-136755 Car design seems to be very promising and it's growing on me. 5-series seems to take the best features of current design line which I like a lot. However, I'm not impressed by interior. I would prefer something that has connections with earlier model design. They delete rise above board computer's display which was something unique to 5-er E60 and looked really great. I'll miss that part of cockpit. Car design seems to be very promising and it’s growing on me. 5-series seems to take the best features of current design line which I like a lot. However, I’m not impressed by interior. I would prefer something that has connections with earlier model design. They delete rise above board computer’s display which was something unique to 5-er E60 and looked really great. I’ll miss that part of cockpit.

]]> By: Gord http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/10/2011-bmw-5-series-enter-the-final-evaluation-phase/#comment-136691 Gord Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:38:08 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17116#comment-136691 Looks good, but I have a feeling tailights will be 7 series or 5 series GT style. Looks good, but I have a feeling tailights will be 7 series or 5 series GT style.

]]> By: John Pham http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/10/2011-bmw-5-series-enter-the-final-evaluation-phase/#comment-136689 John Pham Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:29:02 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17116#comment-136689 Whoever says that Mercedes-Benz is going a different approach, you have go to be f**king kidding me. Last time I checked, each German car manufacturer has a distinct trademark look about their cars across the entire lineup. Evaluating over them all: BMW has the kidney grills Audi has the extended grill/vent that covers across almost 2/3 of the front bar Mercedes-Benz has the steam-engine-like, horizontal slit front grill So if you complain about common external traits across a range, your an idiot. Of course the F10 5er will share similar traits as other cars recently released, it is a design cue of this era of BMWs. Whether it looks good or not, is debatable. But for some of you above (not going to name out names) to say Mercedes-Benz is going a different approach, is just blasphemous. Look at: http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/09/rendering-2011-bmw-5-series-could-this-be-the-real-deal/ In the magazine front, you can see a facelift SLK and S-class Benz. Look at the headlights and overall design, if I draw a vertical cut and separate both the SLKs and S-class headlights into two square-like parts, I'd almost replicate myself the new E-class. Whoever says that Mercedes-Benz is going a different approach, you have go to be f**king kidding me. Last time I checked, each German car manufacturer has a distinct trademark look about their cars across the entire lineup. Evaluating over them all:
BMW has the kidney grills
Audi has the extended grill/vent that covers across almost 2/3 of the front bar
Mercedes-Benz has the steam-engine-like, horizontal slit front grill
So if you complain about common external traits across a range, your an idiot. Of course the F10 5er will share similar traits as other cars recently released, it is a design cue of this era of BMWs. Whether it looks good or not, is debatable. But for some of you above (not going to name out names) to say Mercedes-Benz is going a different approach, is just blasphemous.

Look at:
http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/09/rendering-2011-bmw-5-series-could-this-be-the-real-deal/
In the magazine front, you can see a facelift SLK and S-class Benz. Look at the headlights and overall design, if I draw a vertical cut and separate both the SLKs and S-class headlights into two square-like parts, I’d almost replicate myself the new E-class.

]]> By: Jordan http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/10/2011-bmw-5-series-enter-the-final-evaluation-phase/#comment-136655 Jordan Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:03:47 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17116#comment-136655 **In no way do they resemble the 3 series coupe.... **In no way do they resemble the 3 series coupe….

]]> By: Jordan http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/10/2011-bmw-5-series-enter-the-final-evaluation-phase/#comment-136653 Jordan Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:03:09 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=17116#comment-136653 Ya i agree the tail lights look like the 7 series. In way do they resemble the 3 series coupe like some ppl have said, or the sedan for that matter.... i just can't see it. The lighting technology however does seem like it's similar to the facelifted 2009 3 series sedan.... as well as the 7, and i quite like it. Ya i agree the tail lights look like the 7 series. In way do they resemble the 3 series coupe like some ppl have said, or the sedan for that matter…. i just can’t see it. The lighting technology however does seem like it’s similar to the facelifted 2009 3 series sedan…. as well as the 7, and i quite like it.

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