Comments on: More BMW Fuel Pump News…

By: Valarie

Valarie — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:43:13 +0000

Ever since I knew what a car was I wanted a BMW. Finally on my 50th Birthday my husband bought me a new 135I Conv. It was one of the happiest days of my life. Sad to say my new car soon experienced the fuel limping problem. Currently my BMW has been setting at the BMW shop for three weeks with no promise of a date to be fixed. Mean while I continue to make good on my end. At this point I don’t think I could even sale the car…worse yet, my son is placing a order on a M3. After reading this website I am going to continue begging him to reconsider. Maybe I’ll offer to pay him to reconsider. So very disappointed in my life time dream!!!

By: Lynda

Lynda — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:54:38 +0000

Thanks for posting this, MG. Lemon laws vary from state to state. Here’s a site with some information – choose your state from the drop-down menu, or you can simply google. http://www.yourlemonlawrights.com/23-news.aspx This site is for a lawyer that handles such cases, though I personally prefer not to work through attorneys unless I absolutely have to.

I very much appreciate your post, though, because I just got my car back, 2007, 335i, after taking it in because it was cranking and cranking before starting. They replaced the fuel pump, again. Since it has conked out on me on the highway before, it helps to know that these things can give warning signals.

By: MG

MG — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:35:09 +0000

I bought my 2008 535i a year ago and today I just had my HPFP go out on me on the highway with 13k miles on it. I should have known the indicators because my car took a long time to start the other day and car jerks sometimes when you start it. I should have had BMW come pick up my car instead of driving to their service and made me rent a Toyota since they were out of loaner cars. Hopefully they will refund me. If the HPFP is replaced more than 3 times is this considered a “Lemmon” and is BMW liable to replace your car? I did not spend 60k to go through this inconvenient issue.

By: Paul

Paul — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:40:22 +0000

Ah now only if they made the M-3 in AWD I would get one also !

By: Tommy

Tommy — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:53:17 +0000

Here’s my solution to the entire mess. Look this engine has so many problems with the pumps BMW is so pissed off cause it’s costing them and arm and a leg. Most people don’t go reading blogs just before buying their new car. I use to sell Honda’s, Toyota’s, Lexus, BMW’s and all of them have problems here and there but this one is a HUGE problem for BMW and I’m sure it’s embarrising and hurts them tremendously. The service advisor even told me that this is a big problem BMW is dealing with everyday. So I bought another 3 series but I didn’t get another 335i that’s for sure. I am still waiting for the car to be shipped because it’s been built and on the ship for 3 weeks now. It’s the all new 2010 M3. I know there are no issues with any pump on this bad boy. Oh and I have never driven the new M3. When I sold them they were 6 cyl and heavier. This has the V8 and it’s the lightest V8 in the world and lighter them the last 6 cyl. If anything goes wrong with this car I will jump on this board and let you guys know. But the 335, 535 and the the Z4 with the twin turbo engine should be avoided. Only if the general public knew about the pump issues…. It would cost BMW millions upon millions of dollars in the present and the future. Good luck to everyone out there trying to get a new car. All I did btw was call BMW NA and talked to a rep and did some explaining not complaining. If you bitch they will blow you off, it pays to be nice. They paid my car off and wrote me a check for the payments I made for over 2yrs.

By: brad

brad — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:24:20 +0000

Tommy,

How did you ever get BMW to take the car back. My car is in for its 3rd fuel pump and I am thinking lemon law also. I honestly thought BMW just had to keep repairing.

Brad

By: Paul

Paul — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:22:50 +0000

OOPS spelled Constitutional Republic wrong , you see even I make a mistake once in a while so did BMW with this HPFP , will they correct it , yes , what kind of dialog has traspired between BMW and the vendor of the HPFP ? Will they ever make a part for BMW again , yes . Wells Fargo is a bank with issues , people get mad at them everday and storm out vowing never to deal with them again , yesterday — today — tommorrow — from a historical prepective Bimmers are fine automoblies and Wells Fargo is a decent bank — No man is all things to all men — Abe Lincoln — , this could be some unemployed engineers big break , design a new HPFP and sell it to BMW and make a million or two ! — my real interest are big semi-auto pistols , some parts are very scarse so I and found a man in Detroit with the skills and machinery to make these parts , in a few months a few hundred pistol owners will only have to submitt a C.C. number and how many do you want , solutions !

By: Paul

Paul — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:54:06 +0000

I have had may Rolex watches , I sold them all after the hands fell off due to the repated re-coil of my .454 Casull Ruger Super Red Hawk , my sisters BMW 7 series caught fire and burned to a crisp [electricial issues] she got another one , I had a turbo Porsche that leaked oil like a screaming jimmy — Detroit Diesel — I purchased my 335xi with the full knowledge of these issues and I’am going to get a new one as soon as the warranty runs out or maby sooner , maby I’ll do a Dinan S2 conversion to this one , these machines are so complex that they will have issues so one has to understand this to really enjoy and be happy with this type of automoblie , if you do not like it sell it and make BMW go bankrupt or respond to the loss of market share . This great constituital republic was built on doers and not complainers , one of you unemployed engineers should design a new HPFP and show BMW how its done !

By: Chris

Chris — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:50:49 +0000

Honestly I believe they have so many issues with this car; they can’t handle complaints. You will most likely need to get a lawyer (which is no cost to you) and go after BMW NA. Sorry, but you’re probably one of many. Good hunting…it’ll probably take a year to complete the complaint, but at least you’ll get some money back or resolution. Others will get nothing by just complaining to BMW NA or the dealer. You should take a look at the sales for various vendors this year to explain the happiness people have been relaying on the web.

By: Lynda

Lynda — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:10:11 +0000

My car, 2007 335i, has been repaired 3 times, and now needs to be taken in for a 4th time. This is the 3rd 3 series BMW I’ve owned, and will almost certainly be the last. This time I’ll tell them I want a different car, though. We’ll see what kind of response I get.
Has anyone else done this? Asked for a replacement of some kind, i.e. a car that doesn’t have this issue?
Any reports on how they handle it?

By: Jay

Jay — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:14:39 +0000

Paul, while i can appreciate that you use yor vehicles very hard and may not think anyone else knows anything about cars and BMW owners all wear suits…You may know your equipment but apparently you dont know this car because then you would know that The fuel pump failing is hardly minor, and it is not failing under heavy work loads or hard use they go randmly and not always in a safe place. Sometimes they go as your cutting across three lanes of traffic and then the car goes limp. And then the manufacturer denies the problem for a year before they do anything about it. If you like having the screws put to you , have a great time, but when I buy something i expect it to work, I cant afford to throw money away, and I dont just sit there and take BS from companies that dont deliver what they say. (and I dont wear a suit) Now if i only had somecheese to go with my whine.

By: Chris

Chris — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:30:23 +0000

Ha..ha..lordy Paul; that grunt work must be bothering you something fierce. You do have quite the resume, but you did not say you were an astronaut. Therefore…..oh well. I believe they were just making a statement. Looks like Consumer Reports completely agrees with them. Big ol’ black mark for the fuel system for repeated failures. LOL…50K…now on this point calling people loser…YEP..especially bought a 335i or 535i and not a sweet Lexus. Gotta go…late for my manicure.

By: Paul

Paul — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:47:58 +0000

Stop complaining ! If you do not like the BMW line of cars sell it and buy an Audi , oops then you will be on an Audi blog complaining about the short commings of that line of automobiles . I run my BMW 335xi down the coast along Turnagain Arm of Cook Inlet and into the mountians of the Kenai Peninsula weekly or sometimes I’ll head to the Matanuska Glacier racing my Ultimate Mountian Machine through the mountian canyons of the Matanuska River , this machine performs flawlessly , the only problem has been corrected [HPFP] I have spent most of my adult working life in the field doing remote / in town construction , oil rigs , mining operations , logging operations , fishing in Prince William Sound or the Bering Sea , always working with or in close proxcimity of heavy machinery , everthing has a breaking point , cables break , engines blow-up , transmissions strip out , tracks break , huge cast iron compotents break etc etc — most of you guys sit in your office and do not have a clue about how mechanical things work and the stresses placed on them in different situations , you putter around in your shinny Bimmer and complain about minor issues .Guess why in the engine room of the F/T [factory trawler] or C/P [catcher processor] are spare engine parts , pistons , rings , valves , gaskets , berings etc etc , I have worked on Wartsila , Cat , MAN , Detroit Diesel engines and every engine has design flaws / things that need improvement , our attitude is replace the part and get it started — NO SNIVILING — Lawsuits , ha what a loser !

By: Chris

Chris — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:18:32 +0000

I wonder how many lawsuits the N54 has across the nation?

By: Lady J

Lady J — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:02:45 +0000

I have a 2009 535I too that has had two HPFP in the last month; started with hesitate starting, then losing power while driving, then the check engine light. Got it back a week ago and it still doesn’t have the pick up it had when I brought it brand new in April. I called BMW NA also. Waiting to hear from them.

By: Paul

Paul — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:10:29 +0000

BMW = Bring More Wrenches ! I had a Subaru GT Legacy for 3 years , the front seat are horrible , the raidio-air condition – heater unit computer are all in one and that crashed several times , Subaru = SUper Bad Ass Racing Unit !

By: MARTY

MARTY — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:13:21 +0000

The HPFP was fixed immediately. I was having problems with the NAV (2009 Z4 35). The dealer was downloading software. I then got a call that the computer froze and the would have to order a new one from Germany and it could take 2 weeks. Not a problem. I then got a call from the Service Manager stating that production had stopped and there was not ETA. I was kinda upset.

The dealer in all of this has been behind me 100%. They ordered me a 2010 Z4 equiped the same way. They took the car to NA and the techs were able to recover the computer system, so I can drive it until the new one comes.

This was all the dealer. NA has been totally useless. One person tried to tell me the Nav is not BMS’s responsibility. He tried to tell me that tires are not covered. I asked him where is this stated. I asked him to tell me what page of the owner’s manual this is on? I told him I have read the owners manual and what he is telling me is FALSE. I went on to ask him if I have a problem with the buttons on the steering wheel do I have to go back to the company who produced the plastic?

Certain problems with the new NAv have been experienced by BMW personal. BMW is claming it is Teleatlas’s faoult and Teleatlas is claming it is BMW’s problem.
i cant wait to see what happens with the new car.

By: Doug

Doug — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:19:52 +0000

You want to hear this? Not the HPFP but the whole computer system on my 08 535xi. Car has been in the shop for two weeks. Have replaced the hub, I think they called it, reloaded and programmed all soft ware and still have not solved the problem. Since June 1, 19 days in the shop (see my comments above). Next step is to contact BMW North America. This wonderful car is not so wonderful. I do have to say, though, service and dealer responses to date have been excellent. Not a service problem but a product problem.

By: sumit

sumit — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:11:04 +0000

I bought a 2009 535xi and the other day my car died on the middle of the express lane on the I90 in Chicago due to the high pressure fuel pump. When I called BMW they told me that they cannot send a tow-truck because it is too dangerous. I am shocked. Now, the customer service is giving me the story that they have replaced and so nothing can be done. I am surprised that there is no class action lawsuit against BMW for selling its customers a bad car. I could have died on the highway. I think there should have been a recall. Obviously, I am disturbed and astonished with their stonewalling their customers. I guess their actuarial analysis suggests that it is better to pay for the death of one driver than replace the pump on all the cars.

By: Paul

Paul — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:09:50 +0000

Nothing is perfect , when I was logging in Southeast Alaska the 009 Madill yarders used Detroit Diesel engines , the weak link was the quill shaft that ran the blower , [yahoo Detroit Diesel 8 71 2 stroke] , the yarder was made by S.A. Madill of Namino British Columbia , he bought used tank carriages from the U.S. goverment to build his yarders on , after a period of time and advances the yarder was too heavy for the carriage and drive train and moving it was a risky deal , but they continued to build them and they were sold and shipped . A brand spanking new Cat D-10 broke one of the main under carriage componets under the strain of ripping frozen ground at a gold mine in the Koyukuk , the part weights almost as much as a 3 series BMW , the dealership sent some boys up and replaced the part with a new one after that the ripping componets started to show signs of strain so we reinforced the ripping unit with more steel , nothing is perfect , everthing breaks and has a weak point .