Comments on: Cheaper to drive the BMW 335 Diesel than the gasoline version http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/02/09/cheaper-to-drive-the-bmw-335-diesel-than-the-gasoline-version/ BMW News, Reviews, Test Drives, Photos And Videos Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:51:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bmw Diesel | BMW Photos Blog http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/02/09/cheaper-to-drive-the-bmw-335-diesel-than-the-gasoline-version/#comment-336326 Bmw Diesel | BMW Photos Blog Mon, 11 Apr 2011 08:18:59 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=8973#comment-336326 [...] bmw diesel bmwblog.com [...] [...] bmw diesel bmwblog.com [...]

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]]> By: William Austin http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/02/09/cheaper-to-drive-the-bmw-335-diesel-than-the-gasoline-version/#comment-130937 William Austin Sat, 06 Jun 2009 05:39:03 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=8973#comment-130937 I recently drove the BMW 335d diesel and was very impressed. Power and handling was the best I have experience with this type of car. I recently drove the BMW 335d diesel and was very impressed.
Power and handling was the best I have experience with this
type of car.

]]> By: Jesse http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/02/09/cheaper-to-drive-the-bmw-335-diesel-than-the-gasoline-version/#comment-95996 Jesse Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:14:42 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=8973#comment-95996 It still amazes me that hybrids have so much clout with environmentalists. Particulate regulations that kept diesels off the roads were right for the time but need some serious revisions with the newer diesel technologies. It still amazes me that hybrids have so much clout with environmentalists. Particulate regulations that kept diesels off the roads were right for the time but need some serious revisions with the newer diesel technologies.

]]> By: Antonio Delgado http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/02/09/cheaper-to-drive-the-bmw-335-diesel-than-the-gasoline-version/#comment-95666 Antonio Delgado Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:11:10 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=8973#comment-95666 I agree with the initial analysis of diesel vs gasoline engines. But also I want to add three things. 1. People do not buy cars only based on how much money they save on fuel. Driving dynamics play a big role in the buying equation formula (strong BMW suit). Not compromising driving performance and getting fuel economy simultaneously is a big virtue of diesel engines, particularly BMW diesel engines (I know I am preaching to the choir!). 2. Dependability and longevity: diesel engines may cost a little more that counter part gasoline, not us much of hybrid technology, but is a one time up-front cost. In 5-6 years you will have to shell out a significant amount of dough to replace hybrid batteries. Diesel engines will out-live any other current technology, you can still seeing around those mercedes benz 240d and 300d from the 80's with easily 500,000 miles on the odometer. 3. BMW put its money on high driving performance, bringing their best diesel engine to the American market re-introduction (BMW 524d /83-84) but if BMW perseveres and continue with its diesel quest and brings to the US the 116d, 120d, 123d, 320d,325d and 330d. Boy you are talking real economy, manual transmission with BMW driving dynamics, yes you sacrifice a little of acceleration, but in reality for our driving conditions and stinky speed limits is more than enough. Antonio I agree with the initial analysis of diesel vs gasoline engines. But also I want to add three things.
1. People do not buy cars only based on how much money they save on fuel. Driving dynamics play a big role in the buying equation formula (strong BMW suit). Not compromising driving performance and getting fuel economy simultaneously is a big virtue of diesel engines, particularly BMW diesel engines (I know I am preaching to the choir!).
2. Dependability and longevity: diesel engines may cost a little more that counter part gasoline, not us much of hybrid technology, but is a one time up-front cost. In 5-6 years you will have to shell out a significant amount of dough to replace hybrid batteries. Diesel engines will out-live any other current technology, you can still seeing around those mercedes benz 240d and 300d from the 80′s with easily 500,000 miles on the odometer.
3. BMW put its money on high driving performance, bringing their best diesel engine to the American market re-introduction (BMW 524d /83-84) but if BMW perseveres and continue with its diesel quest and brings to the US the 116d, 120d, 123d, 320d,325d and 330d. Boy you are talking real economy, manual transmission with BMW driving dynamics, yes you sacrifice a little of acceleration, but in reality for our driving conditions and stinky speed limits is more than enough.

Antonio

]]> By: hhhm3 http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/02/09/cheaper-to-drive-the-bmw-335-diesel-than-the-gasoline-version/#comment-95592 hhhm3 Tue, 10 Feb 2009 03:15:38 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=8973#comment-95592 BMW has already intro the next X5 diesel hybrid. It is test phase. It gets 35 mpg. BMW has already intro the next X5 diesel hybrid.
It is test phase.
It gets 35 mpg.

]]> By: Gil http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/02/09/cheaper-to-drive-the-bmw-335-diesel-than-the-gasoline-version/#comment-95521 Gil Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:30:51 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=8973#comment-95521 We need diesel hybrid! We need diesel hybrid!

]]> By: Sebastian James http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/02/09/cheaper-to-drive-the-bmw-335-diesel-than-the-gasoline-version/#comment-95510 Sebastian James Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:15:36 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=8973#comment-95510 In the Chicago area the differences between premium gas and diesel prices look to be around $.25/gallon. That's not an insurmountable hurdle, and would lower as more diesel pumps are added My general feeling on the diesel v. hybrid v. electric wars is that diesel is the first wave, allowing consumers to enjoy the same power and driving feel as gas-cars. New diesels drive cleaner and with much higher MPG. Hybrid technology is coming along with regards to power and feel, and I see them not as a second wave, rather wave 1.5. Right now, they're a bit ploddy, and can be likened to a road sofa. Ploddy doesn't help you on a highway exit ramp. But the technology is already getting better, and I see driving performance quickly catching up to that of diesel. The last wave is electric. These cars will have no problem with performance, but are going through the growing pains of range. We also have some work to do with the national power grid, and how to borrow the idea of a plug at each parking space from our Canadian brethren. It shouldn't be a surprise to hear that they use a lot of electric powered engine block heaters up there. In the Chicago area the differences between premium gas and diesel prices look to be around $.25/gallon. That’s not an insurmountable hurdle, and would lower as more diesel pumps are added

My general feeling on the diesel v. hybrid v. electric wars is that diesel is the first wave, allowing consumers to enjoy the same power and driving feel as gas-cars. New diesels drive cleaner and with much higher MPG.

Hybrid technology is coming along with regards to power and feel, and I see them not as a second wave, rather wave 1.5. Right now, they’re a bit ploddy, and can be likened to a road sofa. Ploddy doesn’t help you on a highway exit ramp. But the technology is already getting better, and I see driving performance quickly catching up to that of diesel.

The last wave is electric. These cars will have no problem with performance, but are going through the growing pains of range. We also have some work to do with the national power grid, and how to borrow the idea of a plug at each parking space from our Canadian brethren. It shouldn’t be a surprise to hear that they use a lot of electric powered engine block heaters up there.

]]> By: Menok http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/02/09/cheaper-to-drive-the-bmw-335-diesel-than-the-gasoline-version/#comment-95483 Menok Mon, 09 Feb 2009 12:16:43 +0000 http://www.bmwblog.com/?p=8973#comment-95483 No hybrid can match the fuel efficieny of a diesel, in the future I hope that it can.. I really dont understand your prejudice against diesel cars.. Here in Europe, more exactly Portugal, I dare to say that 70% of the hole car sales are diesel, and the majority of de otto are cars with low cc, 1.2/1.4/1.6/1.8. Giving the exemple of bmw the 2.0d engine is by far the most popular... You see it in the majority of 1 and 3 series.. Gasoline version of the 3 series i believe i saw 2 or 3 cars, and from the 1 series sometimes appears a 116i... The 5 series are dominated by the 3.0d, and then the 3.5d and 2.0d. In the SUV the 2.0d for the X3 and the 3.0d/3.5d for X5/6.. Here gasoline cost €1.156 per litre and the diesel €0.979 per litre, but diesel cars cost about 4000€ then the equivalent gasoil version.. No hybrid can match the fuel efficieny of a diesel, in the future I hope that it can..

I really dont understand your prejudice against diesel cars..

Here in Europe, more exactly Portugal, I dare to say that 70% of the hole car sales are diesel, and the majority of de otto are cars with low cc, 1.2/1.4/1.6/1.8.

Giving the exemple of bmw the 2.0d engine is by far the most popular…
You see it in the majority of 1 and 3 series.. Gasoline version of the 3 series i believe i saw 2 or 3 cars, and from the 1 series sometimes appears a 116i…

The 5 series are dominated by the 3.0d, and then the 3.5d and 2.0d.

In the SUV the 2.0d for the X3 and the 3.0d/3.5d for X5/6..

Here gasoline cost €1.156 per litre and the diesel €0.979 per litre, but diesel cars cost about 4000€ then the equivalent gasoil version..

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