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	<title>Comments on: Nissan GT-R beats the M3 and M5 in residual value</title>
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		<title>By: BMW LOVER</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/01/27/nissan-gt-r-beats-the-m3-and-m5-in-residual-value/comment-page-1/#comment-133367</link>
		<dc:creator>BMW LOVER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BMW will be always the bes t ; i don&#039;t care if the GT-R beats the M3 or the 911  ,  thougt the GT-R is fastest  the M3 is more luxourious and more confident;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BMW will be always the bes t ; i don&#8217;t care if the GT-R beats the M3 or the 911  ,  thougt the GT-R is fastest  the M3 is more luxourious and more confident;</p>
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		<title>By: Gord</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pardon my ignornace, but doesn&#039;t the fact that because the GT-R has a waiting, it won&#039;t lose value as quickly as say a car that doesn&#039;t have a waiting list ? I never said a waiting list made a car better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pardon my ignornace, but doesn&#8217;t the fact that because the GT-R has a waiting, it won&#8217;t lose value as quickly as say a car that doesn&#8217;t have a waiting list ? I never said a waiting list made a car better.</p>
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		<title>By: Gragop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gragop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-92414&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Lee&lt;/a&gt;: 

I agree, quality and ability have nothing to do with a waiting list. Good example is the Alfa 8C - Clarkson said it can&#039;t handle for crap yet it was hyper expensive and uber difficult to get one. Waiting lists usually have to do with hype - a lot of times people will put their names on waiting lists with dealers if they think a car will be big on debut then try to flip one of the first few to go on sale thinking they&#039;ll make a profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-92414" rel="nofollow">The Lee</a>: </p>
<p>I agree, quality and ability have nothing to do with a waiting list. Good example is the Alfa 8C &#8211; Clarkson said it can&#8217;t handle for crap yet it was hyper expensive and uber difficult to get one. Waiting lists usually have to do with hype &#8211; a lot of times people will put their names on waiting lists with dealers if they think a car will be big on debut then try to flip one of the first few to go on sale thinking they&#8217;ll make a profit.</p>
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		<title>By: The Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-92402&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gord&lt;/a&gt;:
Then it&#039;s obviously JDM as hell, too.

I really don&#039;t see the waiting list itself making either the M3 or the GTR any better or worse.  There was a waiting list for the Mustang GT500; it doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s not a complete turd.  There isn&#039;t a waiting list for the Scion xD; that in itself doesn&#039;t make it a better car than the Corvette ZR1.

There are only two things you can judge by using whether or not the vehicle has a waiting list as your tape measure:

1) Marketing.  How well has that company hyped up their product?
2) Production.  How few did they make?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-92402" rel="nofollow">Gord</a>:<br />
Then it&#8217;s obviously JDM as hell, too.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t see the waiting list itself making either the M3 or the GTR any better or worse.  There was a waiting list for the Mustang GT500; it doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not a complete turd.  There isn&#8217;t a waiting list for the Scion xD; that in itself doesn&#8217;t make it a better car than the Corvette ZR1.</p>
<p>There are only two things you can judge by using whether or not the vehicle has a waiting list as your tape measure:</p>
<p>1) Marketing.  How well has that company hyped up their product?<br />
2) Production.  How few did they make?</p>
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		<title>By: Gord</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ The Lee

The M5 during debut had a 2 year waiting list.</description>
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<p>The M5 during debut had a 2 year waiting list.</p>
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		<title>By: The Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-92354&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gord&lt;/a&gt;: 
Well, the GTR is uber JDM, yo.  Of course you have to be on a waiting list for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-92354" rel="nofollow">Gord</a>:<br />
Well, the GTR is uber JDM, yo.  Of course you have to be on a waiting list for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gord</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well you can&#039;t exactly just go and buy a GT-R because I believe there is a waiting list, and people have to pay premiums. An M3, you could just go to dealer, and buy one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you can&#8217;t exactly just go and buy a GT-R because I believe there is a waiting list, and people have to pay premiums. An M3, you could just go to dealer, and buy one.</p>
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		<title>By: The Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-92340&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gragop&lt;/a&gt;: 
I&#039;m with you on that.  I don&#039;t want my car to tell me when/where I can drive fast.  I&#039;m not typically the type to speed anyway, but I enjoy at least having the option available should I need it.

I really don&#039;t like &quot;launch control&quot;.  As a drag racer, I enjoy the effort/time/accomplishment of watching those 60&#039; times drop because of practice and skill acquired through numerous trips to the track.  I don&#039;t care for the idea of a car launching itself in the most efficient manner.  There comes a point where the skill of the driver will diminish simply because there&#039;s no longer any challenge to driving a car like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-92340" rel="nofollow">Gragop</a>:<br />
I&#8217;m with you on that.  I don&#8217;t want my car to tell me when/where I can drive fast.  I&#8217;m not typically the type to speed anyway, but I enjoy at least having the option available should I need it.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t like &#8220;launch control&#8221;.  As a drag racer, I enjoy the effort/time/accomplishment of watching those 60&#8242; times drop because of practice and skill acquired through numerous trips to the track.  I don&#8217;t care for the idea of a car launching itself in the most efficient manner.  There comes a point where the skill of the driver will diminish simply because there&#8217;s no longer any challenge to driving a car like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Gragop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gragop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-92334&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Lee&lt;/a&gt;: 

I respect the authority and capabilities of the GT-R as well but in the end, if it were my money, I&#039;d take an M3 at $55k and save the $25k and be just as happy. The GT-R is incredible but in my mind more a technical exercise and conversation piece given the limitations placed on it by software, the GPS-based limiters, the transmission/launch control and the little black box that records and transmits data on drivers - those things just don&#039;t work for me if I&#039;m spending that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-92334" rel="nofollow">The Lee</a>: </p>
<p>I respect the authority and capabilities of the GT-R as well but in the end, if it were my money, I&#8217;d take an M3 at $55k and save the $25k and be just as happy. The GT-R is incredible but in my mind more a technical exercise and conversation piece given the limitations placed on it by software, the GPS-based limiters, the transmission/launch control and the little black box that records and transmits data on drivers &#8211; those things just don&#8217;t work for me if I&#8217;m spending that much.</p>
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		<title>By: The Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-92314&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gragop&lt;/a&gt;: 

I have a very healthy respect for what the GTR is capable of...

That being said, I agree with you 197%.  I&#039;d rather have the M3, 911 or  ZR-1 any day of the week.

I hate Nissan interiors, I hate the nanny software of the GTR, and I hate the fact that Nissan has completely given up on the inline 6 configuration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-92314" rel="nofollow">Gragop</a>: </p>
<p>I have a very healthy respect for what the GTR is capable of&#8230;</p>
<p>That being said, I agree with you 197%.  I&#8217;d rather have the M3, 911 or  ZR-1 any day of the week.</p>
<p>I hate Nissan interiors, I hate the nanny software of the GTR, and I hate the fact that Nissan has completely given up on the inline 6 configuration.</p>
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		<title>By: Gragop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gragop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d still rather have the M3 that doesn&#039;t grenade itself if I drive it like it&#039;s supposed to be driven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d still rather have the M3 that doesn&#8217;t grenade itself if I drive it like it&#8217;s supposed to be driven.</p>
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		<title>By: CalebC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CalebC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*cough*slushbox*cough*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*cough*slushbox*cough*</p>
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