Comments on: Spy Photos: 2011 BMW M5

By: New information on the next F10 BMW M5

New information on the next F10 BMW M5 — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:36:16 +0000

[...] has been some time since we have seen some spy photos of the next generation F10 BMW M5 and so far the details on this new M have been very sketch, partially because the car is not due [...]

By: Bmwblog Articles

Bmwblog Articles — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 05:26:34 +0000

@Gord: Apparently it will, overall the car should be lighter, due to different materials being used, but we shall see...

By: Gord

Gord — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:42:12 +0000

Would this TT V8 really save weight ? Wasn’t the 550i about the same weight as the E60 M5 ?

By: L1ndja

L1ndja — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:40:30 +0000

I agree with some of you who said that BMW cars should loose some weight if they keep on doing it this way BMW’s image will change and it wont bee the Agile carmaker anymore but I disagree with thouse of you who said that the Turbo way Bmw is choosing is the right one.My message to Bmw would be: Make as many Turbo charged cars if they are that efficient but dont change the M-cars N/A motors they are killers,best sound on earth…
As for the CSL cars i would agree that there is need for an M3 CSL but not for an M5.The M5 is a luxury car no one in the world would buy an M5 without A/C.I think that there is a need for an M6 CSL too but that to a very limited number because there wouldnt be enough buyers for him 2.Around a 100 for the M6 CSL and 500-1000 for the M3 CSL.Beyond this im beggining to like the idea of the M-versions of X5 and X6.Lets see how it comes out.

By: Gragop

Gragop — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:18:49 +0000

@Giom: I agree that BMW’s image needs it but usually car development is a very expensive proposition. I think you’d be looking at a 100k to 110k+ M5 which I’m not sure the market wants. The M3 CSL markets to a different crowd than an M5 CSL would.

People who buy an M5 typically don’t want the compromises of the M3 such as less space, performance ride comfort. Therefore, I think it’s a very small market – small enough for BMW to make little, if any, money, especially in this market. There’s probably enough of a lack of a market for BMW allocate developmental resources for it.

Also – CSL stands for Coupe-Sport-Light so by default it’s outside of a CSL concept, especially given it’s curb weight.

By: Giom

Giom — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:44:34 +0000

@Gragop: I don't fully agree. I think it's more a case of: "If they build it, people will buy it." I'm not talking huge numbers -just enough to return on investment. PLUS, BMW's image needs this right now, I think.

By: Gragop

Gragop — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:12:48 +0000

@Giom: There really isn't much of a market for CSL's outside of the one-off models. I doubt there's a business case for an M5 CSL if BMW can't justify a cheaper, more sporting M3.

By: Spy Shots: 2011 BMW M5 at the Nurburgring - Easy Car Blog

Spy Shots: 2011 BMW M5 at the Nurburgring - Easy Car Blog — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:26:31 +0000

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By: patricksixer

patricksixer — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:43:26 +0000

Agreed on CSLs…can’t be that expensive??

I wonder why is BMW so adamant on dropping the S85, didn’t it cost them a bit of money to develop? Why drop it so soon? Are the numbers–for efficiency, costs, power, etc., everything involved–really that bad? or just that favorable to the ‘N63 on steroids?’

As for the rendering, I’m expecting a bit more, though it’s not bad. I would prefer that the rear not be so elevated though, if anything lower would be better looking. I can’t wait to see the F10 and then the F12, though the latter may disappoint me…

By: Giom

Giom — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:38:37 +0000

They really should make a hard core CSL version of all their M cars. That way, they can still have the heavy but ‘marketable’ car, but also the light wieght sports car.

By: Neal Pratt

Neal Pratt — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:28:15 +0000

The rendering just looks like a dang M3 sedan. It BETTER Look a Little different than the 3er!

By: Nizer

Nizer — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:13:59 +0000

I agree with Adood84. They need to start shedding weight. The mid-cycle update of the current 5-Series added around 250lb. I’d much rather have a high performance version of the 535i twin-turbo then a significantly heavier M5. Too bad BMW doesn’t want to build one.

By: Gord

Gord — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:28:07 +0000

Would it still be high revving ?

By: adood84

adood84 — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:21:20 +0000

I really hope that BMW will start to focus more on losing some of the weight the cars have gained of over the years, because a car can be quick without adding more power, this should also make it drive better and be more fuel efficient