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		<title>By: ShowOto.com &#124; 2009 BMW Alpina B7 Teaser Sketch</title>
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		<dc:creator>ShowOto.com &#124; 2009 BMW Alpina B7 Teaser Sketch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 2009 BMW Alpina B7 Teaser Sketch &#171; Oto Review</title>
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		<dc:creator>2009 BMW Alpina B7 Teaser Sketch &#171; Oto Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ffs</title>
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		<dc:creator>ffs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 20:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think it will have 600 hp</description>
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		<title>By: BMW B7 Teaser von Alpina - Modell, Alpina, Sekunden, Dingen, Motor, Quelle, Netz, Image - Autos - Welt der Technik</title>
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		<dc:creator>BMW B7 Teaser von Alpina - Modell, Alpina, Sekunden, Dingen, Motor, Quelle, Netz, Image - Autos - Welt der Technik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BMW Alpina B7 – Schita teaser &#124; AutoMOD.ro</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/12/19/teaser-new-alpina-b7/comment-page-1/#comment-78756</link>
		<dc:creator>BMW Alpina B7 – Schita teaser &#124; AutoMOD.ro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stunning new BMW Alpina B7</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stunning new BMW Alpina B7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you love the way the BMW 7 Series look, then we have good news. Alpina released its latest sketch of how the new BMW Alpina B7 should look and we have to agree it&#8217;s pretty daring. There aren&#8217;t any official details on what&#8217;s under the hood of that beauty but I can certainly count on improvements from the current B7 which include a 500hp engine, a Valvetronic system, a radial supercharger and 4.8 seconds to hit 60 mph. There are also some 21-inch wheels and a special suspension for better stability, but we&#8217;ll have to wait till Chicago or Geneva, next year, to get more details. [via bmwblog] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If you love the way the BMW 7 Series look, then we have good news. Alpina released its latest sketch of how the new BMW Alpina B7 should look and we have to agree it&#8217;s pretty daring. There aren&#8217;t any official details on what&#8217;s under the hood of that beauty but I can certainly count on improvements from the current B7 which include a 500hp engine, a Valvetronic system, a radial supercharger and 4.8 seconds to hit 60 mph. There are also some 21-inch wheels and a special suspension for better stability, but we&#8217;ll have to wait till Chicago or Geneva, next year, to get more details. [via bmwblog] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alpina B7 2009, boceto del Serie 7 corregido y aumentado &#124; Coches y Motores</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alpina B7 2009, boceto del Serie 7 corregido y aumentado &#124; Coches y Motores</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 16:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/12/19/teaser-new-alpina-b7/comment-page-1/#comment-77629</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 23:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-77608&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Craig&lt;/a&gt;: 
Psh, that technology isn&#039;t &quot;new&quot;.  The Amish don&#039;t use tires, &#039;cause they&#039;re hardcore like that.

Maybe that&#039;s their inspiration for the new B7?  Amish wagons?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-77608" rel="nofollow">Craig</a>:<br />
Psh, that technology isn&#8217;t &#8220;new&#8221;.  The Amish don&#8217;t use tires, &#8217;cause they&#8217;re hardcore like that.</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s their inspiration for the new B7?  Amish wagons?</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are all wrong. This car features a new technology that allows the car to ride on the wheels, requiring NO REAR TIRES!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are all wrong. This car features a new technology that allows the car to ride on the wheels, requiring NO REAR TIRES!</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-77560&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gragop&lt;/a&gt;: 
I absolutely wouldn&#039;t doubt the $100mil mark.  

According to this (http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080424.009/alpina-returns-to-racing-with-b6-gt3), Alpina is going to be running in the FIA GT3 Euro Championships.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-77560" rel="nofollow">Gragop</a>:<br />
I absolutely wouldn&#8217;t doubt the $100mil mark.  </p>
<p>According to this (<a href="http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080424.009/alpina-returns-to-racing-with-b6-gt3)" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080424.009/alpina-returns-to-racing-with-b6-gt3)</a>, Alpina is going to be running in the FIA GT3 Euro Championships.</p>
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		<title>By: Gragop</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/12/19/teaser-new-alpina-b7/comment-page-1/#comment-77560</link>
		<dc:creator>Gragop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-77553&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lee&lt;/a&gt;: 

A friend of mine&#039;s little brother is working to get into a few series likes ALMS or the Rolex Series, etc. The amount of money it&#039;s costing their family to get him to a position where he can even be competitive is mind-boggling.

I read a while back that to get a driver from birth to Formula One costs something like 100 million plus for all the training, equipment they&#039;ll need, licenses, management, etc. it&#039;s nuts. If you look at most of the Formula One guys - most come from very wealthy backgrounds. Niki Lauda bought his way into a March F1 to jump start his career but then Hamilton and Raikonnen came from more normal backgrounds. 

ANYWAY  - my guess is that Alpina won&#039;t be very competitive as they&#039;ve not fielded a car in a series in over 2 decades. What series are they running in? I&#039;m curious to see the direction that Alpina will take now that Andy Bovenspien is taking over the company his father started.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-77553" rel="nofollow">Lee</a>: </p>
<p>A friend of mine&#8217;s little brother is working to get into a few series likes ALMS or the Rolex Series, etc. The amount of money it&#8217;s costing their family to get him to a position where he can even be competitive is mind-boggling.</p>
<p>I read a while back that to get a driver from birth to Formula One costs something like 100 million plus for all the training, equipment they&#8217;ll need, licenses, management, etc. it&#8217;s nuts. If you look at most of the Formula One guys &#8211; most come from very wealthy backgrounds. Niki Lauda bought his way into a March F1 to jump start his career but then Hamilton and Raikonnen came from more normal backgrounds. </p>
<p>ANYWAY  &#8211; my guess is that Alpina won&#8217;t be very competitive as they&#8217;ve not fielded a car in a series in over 2 decades. What series are they running in? I&#8217;m curious to see the direction that Alpina will take now that Andy Bovenspien is taking over the company his father started.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-77538&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gragop&lt;/a&gt;: 

Count me in.  I&#039;ll bring the paint markers (so we can paint the stitching on the seats our own special color... maybe pea green?).

Alpina is at least fielding a race car, or at least they&#039;re &lt;i&gt;supposed&lt;/i&gt; to.  Supercharged 4.4L 6 series making a little over 500hp.  

Racing is INCREDIBLY expensive.  Spec Miata, which was started so Joe Public could afford to race in a competitive series.  Even Spec Miata has become too expensive for everyone but large businesses and independently wealthy individuals.

Some companies (such as Turner Motorsports) can afford to race; most can&#039;t.  The best most can hope for is to get on as a sponsor for an individual&#039;s race car.  Problem there is that the shops don&#039;t benefit from testing and the progression of knowledge that comes with fielding a race team so they don&#039;t &lt;i&gt;gain&lt;/i&gt; any marketable skills from the endeavor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-77538" rel="nofollow">Gragop</a>: </p>
<p>Count me in.  I&#8217;ll bring the paint markers (so we can paint the stitching on the seats our own special color&#8230; maybe pea green?).</p>
<p>Alpina is at least fielding a race car, or at least they&#8217;re <i>supposed</i> to.  Supercharged 4.4L 6 series making a little over 500hp.  </p>
<p>Racing is INCREDIBLY expensive.  Spec Miata, which was started so Joe Public could afford to race in a competitive series.  Even Spec Miata has become too expensive for everyone but large businesses and independently wealthy individuals.</p>
<p>Some companies (such as Turner Motorsports) can afford to race; most can&#8217;t.  The best most can hope for is to get on as a sponsor for an individual&#8217;s race car.  Problem there is that the shops don&#8217;t benefit from testing and the progression of knowledge that comes with fielding a race team so they don&#8217;t <i>gain</i> any marketable skills from the endeavor.</p>
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		<title>By: Gragop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gragop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-77530&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lee&lt;/a&gt;: 

Exactly. Hell, give me ten minutes, a pack of Crayolas and some straight pipes and I&#039;ll have my own &quot;tuning&quot; shop. I used to think differently of Alpina as they campaigned, successfully, some 3.0 CSLs back in the 1970s and I think a few touring cars in the 1980&#039;s. If I buy a pedigree brand, I want just that, pedigree behind the name. Alipna just doesn&#039;t seem to be fulfilling that niche anymore - nor does any other tuner. My guess is racing it too expensive a proposition by any smaller, independent shop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-77530" rel="nofollow">Lee</a>: </p>
<p>Exactly. Hell, give me ten minutes, a pack of Crayolas and some straight pipes and I&#8217;ll have my own &#8220;tuning&#8221; shop. I used to think differently of Alpina as they campaigned, successfully, some 3.0 CSLs back in the 1970s and I think a few touring cars in the 1980&#8217;s. If I buy a pedigree brand, I want just that, pedigree behind the name. Alipna just doesn&#8217;t seem to be fulfilling that niche anymore &#8211; nor does any other tuner. My guess is racing it too expensive a proposition by any smaller, independent shop.</p>
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		<title>By: Gragop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gragop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-77530&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lee&lt;/a&gt;: 

Exactly. Hell, give me ten minutes, a pack of Crayolas and some straight pipes and I&#039;ll have my own &quot;tuning&quot; shop. I used to think differently of Alpina as they campaigned, successfully, some 3.0 CSLs back in the 1970s and I think a few touring cars in the 1980&#039;s. If I buy a pedigree brand, I want just that, pedigree behind the name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-77530" rel="nofollow">Lee</a>: </p>
<p>Exactly. Hell, give me ten minutes, a pack of Crayolas and some straight pipes and I&#8217;ll have my own &#8220;tuning&#8221; shop. I used to think differently of Alpina as they campaigned, successfully, some 3.0 CSLs back in the 1970s and I think a few touring cars in the 1980&#8217;s. If I buy a pedigree brand, I want just that, pedigree behind the name.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-77525&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gragop&lt;/a&gt;: 
Absolutely agree.  It seems the bar hasn&#039;t been set very high as of late, so they really don&#039;t have to put much effort forth.  Slap a body kit on it, some larger wheels and maybe a very mild retune.  Perhaps a badge on the interior.  BAM.  Done.

It&#039;s a pretty lame formula.  Too flashy and not enough grunt to back it up, IMO.  Look at all the M3 &quot;tuned&quot; versions out there right now; most of them have ~5% increase in power.  Woo.  Hoo.  Suspension and brakes seem to be OEM on most of them.  No changes to the drivetrain.  Just some tarting up and a nifty logo on the back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-77525" rel="nofollow">Gragop</a>:<br />
Absolutely agree.  It seems the bar hasn&#8217;t been set very high as of late, so they really don&#8217;t have to put much effort forth.  Slap a body kit on it, some larger wheels and maybe a very mild retune.  Perhaps a badge on the interior.  BAM.  Done.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a pretty lame formula.  Too flashy and not enough grunt to back it up, IMO.  Look at all the M3 &#8220;tuned&#8221; versions out there right now; most of them have ~5% increase in power.  Woo.  Hoo.  Suspension and brakes seem to be OEM on most of them.  No changes to the drivetrain.  Just some tarting up and a nifty logo on the back.</p>
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		<title>By: Gragop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gragop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it...but it looks identical the Alpina B7 out now.

Alpina has an impressive history, especially in motorsport, but man, does anyone else get the feeling they&#039;ve declined in their potential in the last few years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it&#8230;but it looks identical the Alpina B7 out now.</p>
<p>Alpina has an impressive history, especially in motorsport, but man, does anyone else get the feeling they&#8217;ve declined in their potential in the last few years?</p>
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