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Speaking of The Big Three from Detroit…..

Others | December 9th, 2008 by 31
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Okay, I know it’s not funny to joke about our hurting economy and the potential loss of thousands of jobs, but…this “ad” made me chuckle …

Speaking of The Big Three from Detroit.....

Okay, I know it’s not funny to joke about our hurting economy and the potential loss of thousands of jobs, but…this “ad” made me chuckle a bit. 

I won’t be getting into an analysis of the Big Three -a future article will cover that- but it makes you wonder what were the main factors that caused their decline.

P.S If anyone is offended by this ad, I apologize in advance, we’re just trying to make you smile sometimes.

[Source: Jason Calcanis ]

  • Brookside

    How could anyone be offended…Detroit does build 2nd rate cars and this ad hits it right on target.

    It’s not as if only Germany and Japan are the only nations who can make a good automobile…it’s that Detroit settled long ago for a calculated mediocrity.

    There’s a GM plant and a Ford plant in the city I live in. I’d hate to see workers lose their jobs. But on the other hand, these companies have been spewing forth awful product for so long- it’s time for them to get their act together or kiss it goodbye.

  • Gragop

    I think it’s funny – and true.

  • clara

    That is hillarious!

    They deserve as many kicks as possible for complacency and letting “American car quality” become an oxymoron. How many people have lost their jobs over the last few decades simply because Detroit couldn’t get its act together?

  • Gragop

    @clara:

    I’d probably buy American if the quality/technology was there. There was a long period of the 20th century in which US manufacturers were the leaders in the car industry – figure out how to do that stuff again and get to doing it!

  • Lee

    HAHAHAHAHA!!!

    If anyone’s offended, they need to remove the sticks from their asses and laugh a little.

  • Gragop

    @Lee:

    Actually, your last statement offends me.

  • clara

    @Gragop:
    I think I would too, but the car would really have to be excellent and well though-out all-around. Hopefully they’d clean up their reputation too, so we’re not representing incumbent failure as well as new growth.

    But was that the same thing, really, back in that previous century? The only american car that can be paralleled with BMW is… maybe Duesenberg?

    Their manufacturing domination in the ~50s led to the complacency as well as silly games with the oil industry, tire industry and meddling in politics. That’s the notion I have about it, anyway.

  • Gragop

    @clara:

    I think 1973 was when everything that were complacent on finally caught up to them. After that, it was just a matter of time before it all went down in flames.

    I was against it at first, but maybe it’s worth letting them go into bankruptcy for a complete restructuring to get the UAW off their back, develop better products and then move forward.

  • http://www.bmwblog.com Horatiu B.

    I’m glad you guys find this funny. One issue with the Big Three is the manufacturing of WAY too many different models. That approach does not work these days anymore and they need to trim down their vehicles offered.

    Oh, reusing the same platform and sharing parts will definitely help them.

  • Lee

    @Gragop:

    Your face offends me…

    (Yeah, that’s right, I went there. Bet you didn’t wake up this morning thinking to yourself “You know, I bet some random ass on some random BMW website is going to start flinging 3rd grade insults in a joking manner towards me.” I’m like that, though; I like to catch people off their guard. Yup.)

  • Gil

    *sigh* I had a lengthy reply about this but the computer lost it. lol. I’ll make it short: I gave GM a chance 2 years ago after years of BMWs and Lexus and MB ownership. Bought an Escalade. 6 months and weather stripping fell off the door. Bad switches… and the many spring-loaded stuff inside. They must’ve done cost-cutting on springs! The major components work fine, but it’s the little things that make you feel like the car is falling apart and is made poorly. And that was in a Cadillac!

    Let them go bankrupt. Start a new company from scratch with new ideas and new direction, rehire the workers under new contract (so we don’t have to worry about 2-million-plus unemployed people), disband the UAW, and make them wear UNIFORM for god’s sake. It irks me everytime they show the factory workers wearing t-shirts and shorts of all colors of a rainbow, and some even look like pajamas! Yes I know they get dirty, I don’t expect them to have white crisp overalls, but damn, can’t they at least wear company-color t-shirts and shorts and look a touch more professional.

  • Lee

    @Gil:
    I had a similar experience with my Z06, coming from an e46 M3. It was faster, sure, but it looked like the interior was designed by Playskool.

  • jay H

    Aside from the slow server connection and frustrating constant MySQL server errors this BMWblog site is starting to loose substance. if i wanna laugh i go to comic strip blog sites. i’m bitter today – i just lost a bunch of colleagues in a layoff. i hope the The Big Three go bankrupt! I’m not offended by this and yes I did laugh a little.

  • http://www.bmwblog.com Horatiu B.

    @jay H: I’m sorry you feel that way Jay, and I honestly haven’t seen any issues with the connection or SQL errors. We do monitor this and occasionally we might see a problem, but not so often.

    I’m not sure what you meant by us starting to loose substance, we try to cover as many topics as possible and the Big 3 is definitely a huge topic this day. In our recent survey, many people requested that we would diversify a bit and not stick to spy photos only.

    Feel free to share with us your suggestions.

  • Lance

    this ad is disguisting!!! There is nothing to smile about in this ad. These three companies are good examples of corporate failure due to poor management and planning. Now they want to come with this arrogant advert! What the government should do is let private companies stay private. They cannot management a company properly, they fall and that’s it.

    Their downfall will automatically create opportunities for someone else. Those CEO’s begging for bailout and taking $1 salary should actually be kicked out of the companies nevermind giving them $1 because clearly they are useless. Employes should actually fight for new and better management as their future are in those few people’s hands.

    Sheer arrogance here! In fact real men have brains and will not buy rubbish like these. If they did, your cars will be even worse because you think we are idiots that buy anything that’s local!

  • Lee

    @Lance:
    Lance, I want you to extend your arms and reach HIGH above your head. Maybe then you can catch what that “ad” really was. Hurry up, though, as it may have already finished flying over.

  • Gil

    LOL @ Lee. You’re a mess…..

  • Gragop

    @Lee:

    Touche, well, I’ll move up to 4th grade with:

    Yo mama so greasy she uses bacon as a band aid.

  • Lee

    @Gragop:
    Oooooooh, snap! Yo mamma so fat, she stepped on a rainbow and made Skittles*!

    @Gil:
    I’m a mess? How so? Because I didn’t iron my shirt today? I know it’s a little wrinkled on the back, but I’ve been wearing my jacket most of the day so how the hell would you notice? I’m trying my best, dammit, but sometimes when I didn’t sleep well because I had nightmares about Gragop stalking me, I wake up late and don’t have time to iron. Cut me some slack!

    *Skittles is a registered trademark of Mars, Incorporated.

  • http://www.bmwblog.com Horatiu B.

    :) Ok, guys are we cool now? I can’t even tell if you guys are just teasing each other or really taking stabs? lol

  • Lee

    @Horatiu B.:
    Just joking around, Horatiu.

  • Gil

    LOL….

  • http://www.bmwblog.com Horatiu B.

    @Lee: hahaha that’s what i thought, but I wasn’t sure, I know you and Gragrop do that lol but I wasn’t sure about the others…it’s all fun though, you guys are fun to read

  • Gragop

    @Horatiu B.: We’re just playing, I promise…Lee’s mom called and asked me to stop making fun of him anyway.

  • Lee

    @Gragop:
    I wish I had a comeback for that, but I’m laughing too damn hard to think of one.

  • Lee

    I almost feel bad for Horatiu some times. I mean, he works so hard putting together a great website for us and what does he get in return? Gragop and I (mostly Gragop) acting like unsupervised children…

    (Okay, so I don’t really feel that bad about it.)

  • Gragop

    @Lee:

    Keeping things on edge isn’t completely childish…I don’t feel horrible about it…we keeps it clean, baby!

  • http://www.bmwblog.com Horatiu B.

    You guys are fine, no worries, I do allow people to argue or contradict since it’s very constructive and it’s who we really are, and I only moderated insults.

    So, don’t worry, keep going :) Now, tell me more about the Big 3, are the unions one of the main factors of their problems?

  • Gragop

    @Horatiu B.:

    The UAW is helping to severely de-rail the Big 3. I understand that the purpose behind the union is to aide the working class guy and make sure he’s fairly represented and cared for instead of being a cog in the machine but the UAW has hardballed the Big 3 so much over the years for stuff that “concessions” they try to make now are for nought, far too late. I’d hope a corporate restructuring would allow for a drastic renegotiation of the UAW contract with the Big 3, does the UAW realize that without the Big 3 they’re dead in the water too?!

    What really gets me is that as a contigency people have discussed handing over significant interest(http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/11/a_suggestion_for_big_three_and.html) to the UAW in the Big 3. I just don’t see how that can get the Big 3 back into the black – why hand the same people who’ve helped bleed these companies dry for years the damn keys to the building and plants?! That’s far more distressing than executives using private jets to travel – which was blown way out of proportion.

  • clara

    @Gragop:
    He wants to *give* an 80% stake to the UAW union? What % do they have now?

  • Gragop

    @clara:

    I don’t know if they have any stake in the Big 3 right now, aside from job security. I just think it’s asinine to continue to have the UAW function in it’s current capacity. Give the Big 3 time to restructure and some breathing room with labor relations? Allow them the opportunity to provide competitive benefits and wages without unionization of workers like some European companies. BMW doesn’t have unionized workers in the US and it seems to work pretty well.

    This also will reduce the profit margins eaten up by legacy costs in current Big 3 models. Mitt Romney (yeah, I know he flip flops on this) does have a good point that if you consider that about $2,000 of the cost of a Big 3 car is already tied up in overheard/legacy costs then that’s $2,000 less in quality, development, and amenities that you’ll lose right off the top before the car even hits the market. No wonder the Japanese and Europeans are more competitive in terms of pricing – $2,000 per model is a huge chunk of the cost that the American manufacturers are basically eating and passing onto the consumer through less amenities and cheaper parts.

    It’s vicious circle with the UAW in the picture.

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