Comments on: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V vs 2008 BMW M5

By: Phil lazenby

Phil lazenby — Sun, 21 Aug 2011 16:57:00 +0000

Let’s all keep in mind the m tested was smg whereas the cts-v was a manual. There is a reason all race cars have shifted to clutchless driving (no pun intended)

From my experience of e46 m3′s on the track, the smg with the same driver will on average complete a minute lap roughly two seconds faster. (depending obviously on his heel toe skill with the manual.

Take that into account as well as fact that the bmw driver is an actual professional driver. The cts driver is a designer who happens to have driven cts-v cars quite a bit. Probably a weekend tracker. I track quite a bit but I would be willing to bet that schumacher would kick my ass in any car, regardless of how long I’ve owned it.

Unfair comparison imo. Should be same driver, same tranny. Top gear style

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By: VetteMan

VetteMan — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 01:03:21 +0000

I wouldn’t buy either. They brake my standard code of car conduct:
1) Must not weight over 3300lbs
2) Must be louder than any car within a 10 miles radius
3) Must only have only two seats- one for my ass and the other for my ego.
Simply put that leaves one badass Zr1 Vette in my opinion. You can rip those Bee Gee songs to your Caddy hardrive, I’ll rip through the fabric on space and time in my Zr1.

By: non of your god damn business

non of your god damn business — Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:48:04 +0000

Embarrased? Shame on me? I need help? Hell, the only help I need is finding the m5 owners after I smoke them in my cts v like the giants smoke phillies. 623 hp to the rear wheels. might not be stock but but I didn’t spend more than 70k on my car. To the one that said you couldn’t get a cts v for sticker price, ha! Sad sad man. If I didn’t own a piece of eurotrash 745 I wouldn’t be talking. But since I do …..

By: Giom Mouton

Giom Mouton — Wed, 17 Nov 2010 07:42:34 +0000

Shame dude, hope you get over your insecurities soon. I feel embarrassed for your sake, but there is help for you!

By: non of your god damn business

non of your god damn business — Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:39:48 +0000

Its funny to see how many eurotrash supporters are willing to argue how much these piece of crap, overpriced, better by extended warranty or sell your kidney to fix trash buckets are better than an inexpensive luxory sedan that will out do the bmw or Mercedes for 30k less. If having 10 cylinders is not a big engine, tell me what is?! So let’s compare apples to apples. E63 vs rm. What happen bmw? What excuse do you have now?

By: Phil

Phil — Tue, 09 Nov 2010 00:30:55 +0000

Madison Avenue propaganda…? LOL the CTS-V Spanks the M5! That’s called a fact, not propaganda…

By: dean

dean — Mon, 08 Nov 2010 23:46:52 +0000

Cadillac is not the first company that tries to gentrify their cars by driving them on the Nurnbergring, then discussing them in the same sentence as BMW and Mercedes. This is Madison Avenue propaganda. I remember Fort Taurus trying the same shenanigans a decade ago….People know quality when they see it, and GM cant fool the astute buyer from buying the real deal. Besides, I find the new Caddys to be downright butt ugly. No sense of lineage in design, no heritage. I would be embarrassed to buy a car that shares nameplate lineage with the Catera, Allante, and Crap de Ville !! Get real General Motors….

By: Phil

Phil — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:10:24 +0000

Your recap is also misleading people – the CTS-V first laps were done on a WET track, the BMW M5 turn in it’s fast lap when the track was dry and the CTS-V went out and only needed to turn a few laps to pull a HALF SECOND faster time – that’s called a SPANKING in the road racing world…

Quoted directly from Road and Track Article:
‘With the water patch drying and the sun warming the track surface, both drivers start running cool-down laps between fast laps. It’s the last session and it’s too close to call yet. Auberlen runs two hard laps and comes in first with a smile. His timing beacon says he did a 2:44.70 and the GPS data agrees. Heinricy is still out and Kevin Smith of Cadillac’s communications is perspiring. The V is flagged in, Smith’s stopwatch says it’s close. The V ran three fast laps, each one faster than the previous by a tenth of a second. The final one is a 2:44.23, just under a half-second faster than the BMW.’

By: Phil

Phil — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:02:00 +0000

CTS-V beat the M5 by roughly a HALF SECOND and you say the M5 ‘rips the V a new one’ – HAHA…

Stop making excuses, the CTS-V is fast than the M5 in EVERY Category… Put your personal subjective opinions aside – the CTS-V is the KING of four door performance sedans…!

By: Boomstick

Boomstick — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:56:27 +0000

Makes me wonder if the drivers have any idea of what they’re doing. Clearly a biased article seeing as they claim the BMW M5 rips the CTS-V a new one while it’s still slower (smoke some more crack, will ya?). Gotta make me wonder if the tests were biased too…

And yeah, BMW will revamp the M5 so that it’s possible a little faster, probably by adding a larger v12 or whatever and then Cadillac will counter by improving the CTS-V and being top dog again and then maybe Audi or Mercedes will step into the market, so what’s newer means nothing. It’s an ongoing cycle that will never end as long as people are still making cars.

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By: Char

Char — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 04:20:43 +0000

People on the internet can be so stupid. You morons are claiming the BMW ripped it a new one, yet it was slower. The article was posted in 2008, and the Cadillac is a 2009, how can he have driven it for years?? Then dumb people are saying stuff about the engine size? Is this a competition to see who can have the smallest engine??

m5 is for people who have arrived? What kind of idiot would be driving a bmw after they arrived?

If you have not heard the news, Cadillac beats BMW in quality.
http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/releases/pressrelease.aspx?id=2009043

By: Durrh

Durrh — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:03:19 +0000

How does running a SLOWER time equate to “ripping the V a new one”? Please explain that one to me.

Talk about biased reporting.

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By: Jack

Jack — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:21:26 +0000

Best thing about buying the cadi besides it being faster, sounding better, and being less expensive is you aren’t just another douchebag BMW driver…….

By: Peter

Peter — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:56:22 +0000

I will add, to my previous comment…
You know why I own a Land Rover when they are known to break down alot? Because I CAN. To me, class is more important than reliability. If I wanted a reliable car, I buy Lexus. In my LR, I am noticed the moment I arrive. People are not afraid of a drive by shooting when they see my LR (Escalade anyone?)
Plus, I do not care if it breaks down! I make a phone call and the dealer gets me a Rover in minutes. Try that on a Cadillac.
Think about this, the CTS-V is faster than an Aston Martin…..hum, which one would I pick though?
Again, it is called the “Price of admission” . It is the same reason Augusta National Golf Club exists, separation of the classes.
The CTS-V is a wide leather seat in COACH Class. Sorry, I pay the extra and fly first class.
I am sure any State University has the same education level as an Ivy League school,…Still, I know where I am sending my kids!.
It is called..CLASS. The M5 and CTS-v are not on the same class. You get what you pay for.!

By: Giom

Giom — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 10:11:07 +0000

Well said!

By: Peter

Peter — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:04:51 +0000

My comment is that the BMW is just classier than the CTS-v.
The price difference simply separates the classes. ANYONE can own a CTS-V, not everyone can drive an M5. Need proof. Drive around in Miami, Houston, LA, full of Cadies with average Joes on the seats.
Not the M5.
BMW 300/500 series/ CTS-V are for pretenders, everyone can lease/own one. NOT the M5.

It is what separates the masses from the elite.
I call it “Admission Price”. Everyone can have a crappy house, crappy clothes, not a dime in savings, and still lease a CTS. Can’t do that with M5. You either have it, or not.

You do not struggle to make the M5 payment. An M5 is for people who have “arrived”. Arrived to a time when they have everything else in their lives, Beautiful home, good portfolio, golf three times a week, college funds already put aside, AND the 90k car to Drive around.

So for everyone out there who think a car is simply to drive fast,, get your CTS-v. and race all your Evo driving buddies, I will pay the price of admission and get the M5. Because after all, I ‘VE ARRIVED!

By: Jon

Jon — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:39:00 +0000

What’s funny is that the CTS is something like 20-25 grand cheaper. Well, I’ll take that 20-25 grand, put a blower or a twin turbo on the CTS-V, re-do the entire suspension, and probably build an entire new engine for it. Then it WILL cost the same and absolutely eat the M5 for breakfast, lunch and dinner. The price difference is substantial and makes up for it.