m5 is for people who have arrived? What kind of idiot would be driving a bmw after they arrived?

If you have not heard the news, Cadillac beats BMW in quality.
http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/releases/pressrelease.aspx?id=2009043

Talk about biased reporting.

It is what separates the masses from the elite.
I call it “Admission Price”. Everyone can have a crappy house, crappy clothes, not a dime in savings, and still lease a CTS. Can’t do that with M5. You either have it, or not.

You do not struggle to make the M5 payment. An M5 is for people who have “arrived”. Arrived to a time when they have everything else in their lives, Beautiful home, good portfolio, golf three times a week, college funds already put aside, AND the 90k car to Drive around.

So for everyone out there who think a car is simply to drive fast,, get your CTS-v. and race all your Evo driving buddies, I will pay the price of admission and get the M5. Because after all, I ‘VE ARRIVED!

The CTS-V is also much cheaper, not even in the same price class as the BMW M5. LOVE how you left that out, huh?

BMW has been making sportscars for many years. Cadillac is a novice in this area, yet created the CTS-V to whoop the EXPERIENCED BMW M5. LOVE how you left that out, too! AMAZING!

Enough said. You lose.

I doubt that the CTS holds its value better then a 3-Series. That hasn’t been the case at all for the retail prices I’ve seen. Your friends probably wouldn’t buy another BMW again, because they probably either didn’t know how to care for the car, didn’t get the right kinds of care for the car, and/or bought the wrong BMW. You didn’t specify new or used… Also, Cadillac’s the past few years have been decent. Before that… Not so hot.

BMW is a German car. It’s simple, the produce cars that are built to higher and better standards. The CTS doesn’t get as good of gas mileage, doesn’t wear as nicely, nor does it look as good after 10 years. Show me the large groups of people that get together and restore 10-20 year old Cadillacs. For every 1 group you can find me, I can find you over 100 that restore their BMW’s.

It doesn’t matter if you’re getting on a track or not. Plain and simple, the 328 and 335 are better cars then the CTS’s are. They handle better, feel better, drive better, are more comfortable, etc. etc.

But, if you like your Caddy, more power to ya, brother. That just leaves more BMW’s for me and the true enthusiasts to own and drive.

Thanks for reading my post and commenting. Come back soon!

Now, you claim that the 5 is faster. This is true, except for the 528 of course. The 535 is only slightly faster to 60, but would probably take the CTS by a second to the 1/4 mile. And the 550i is a beast, but just way too overpriced as are all the 5 series. I just personally don’t see the point in paying more for less.
528i (0-60 in 6.5) = MSRP $45,500
535i = $51,000
550i = $60,000
What i payed for my CTS, 3.6 liter DI with sports package and 40g hard drive: $36,000
And as for the gas mileage, the CTS gets better mileage than the 535 or the 550
CTS DI: 18/26
535: 17/26
550: 15/23
Explain that one to me again please because last time I checked 18 was more than 17 and 26 was more than 23. I guess you can say it’s simple math. And the best part is, the CTS runs on regular fuel.

The 40 g hard drive is great because you save your cds onto the car and guess what? You never have to pop in another cd again. No need to keep cds in the car and no need to continuously switch cds while you’re driving. Personally, I think it’s great and I think every car should come with it. Oh, and by the way, that eliminates your need for the IPOD, though you can still connect it if you wish. And BMW still has no tivo for the radio, which allows to to even playback the radio when you’ve been out of your car for an hour.

I don’t really find the iDrive any fun, but that’s personal opinion and you are clearly biased towards BMWs. I have no personal favorite car company, I simply go with whatever car gives me the most for my money, in this case, the CTS.

You clearly prefer the stiffness of the BMW, which I find rather useless considering that once again, I drive in the city to work and back and not on a race track. The interior on the BMW is mediocre, but definitely not worth more than $35,000. It’s the same interior as the 3 series! They all look the same on the inside and they even have the same boring speedometer! Cadillac offers a nice red needle with a blue backgroung that looks great at night, and even leaves the driver with the option of the digital dash, like the Porsches which I personally love.
What it comes down to is personal preference, but the way I see it, why pay so much more for a more bland interior and a stiffer ride? At least through my experiences, the BMWs have proven to have several problems (nothing is worse than my Jaguar experiences though) and a mediocre interior for a much higher price. Cadillac has me hooked for now, but again, I drive any car that’s comfortable and treats me well.

Now, for the Nissan comment, please don’t go there. The fact that people consider paying that much money for a Nissan is just absurd. Nissan’s are by no means bad cars, however, they’re just Nissan’s! Nothing special just another Japanese car. And as for Mercedes, I just don’t think they even compare to Cadi or BMW. My father had an E320 (stiff piece of shit) and the newest ML drives awful. My sister’s Volvo XC90 drives much better than that overpriced crap, though the Volvo does drive well.

The new CTS harddrive is useless. I don’t see why this gets people so excited.

The looks of the CTS are even bland… They look good from a distance, and then you get closer and you see the car looks like plastic and made cheaply. The interior isn’t anything special in comparison, the seats are HORRIBLE! The steering wheel is the most awful thing I’ve ever used to drive with. The steering goes where you want, but the transmission sucks, the brakes are either REALLY on or not there at all. You can’t modulate the brakes to be comfortable when stopping. You are either slamming on them, well, nothing.

The engine isn’t as nice as I expected. The car is just plain and simple useless.

The CTS-V is a much different car. It looks great, I’m sure it drives great, but that steering wheel and the interior are still a huge drawback. I would never buy the CTS-V simply due to that horrible feeling steering wheel. I can’t fit my hands around it at 9 and 3.

I’ve seen the CTS-V’s information, I know what it does. It’s quick as hell! But I would really, really hope so with the amount of power coming out of a 6.3L Supercharged V8. The M5 will make just as much power and still be the better car in its next iteration. It’s not even that much slower now… It may be a bit slower in a straight line, but look at the numbers, it almost had the Caddy.

CTS-V: 2:44.23
Bimmer: 2:44.70

That’s hardly enough to make me sell my M5 and go for a CTS-V. And you bring up the price point, again. You are just like all of the GT-R kids. You bring that up every chance you can. You won’t be able to find a CTS-V for sticker. Won’t happen.