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	<title>Comments on: BMW To Sell Dual-Turbo Diesel Powered Cars In The U.S</title>
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		<title>By: Johnny K.</title>
		<link>http://www.bmwblog.com/2007/10/03/bmw-to-sell-dual-turbo-diesel-powered-cars-in-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-32414</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cost will be an issue however, at least better injectors, 12mm pump, compound turbo&#039;s and intercoolers to keep EGT&#039;s down (kermatdi.com) could be cost effectively put in the production process.  Perhaps even propane injection for the initial pick-up could be thrown-in (safely) for good range and power gains.  I had a little more time on my hands to make comments -lately.  Someone said, &quot;The pen is mightier than the sword.&quot;  However, I like this one...  tell me where it&#039;s from...

“By iron, iron itself is sharpened. So one man sharpens the face of another.” 

Humble regards -Johnny K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cost will be an issue however, at least better injectors, 12mm pump, compound turbo&#8217;s and intercoolers to keep EGT&#8217;s down (kermatdi.com) could be cost effectively put in the production process.  Perhaps even propane injection for the initial pick-up could be thrown-in (safely) for good range and power gains.  I had a little more time on my hands to make comments -lately.  Someone said, &#8220;The pen is mightier than the sword.&#8221;  However, I like this one&#8230;  tell me where it&#8217;s from&#8230;</p>
<p>“By iron, iron itself is sharpened. So one man sharpens the face of another.” </p>
<p>Humble regards -Johnny K.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, primarily corn is used for ethanol as well as the waste/new corn oil can be used for biodiesel.

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/11/greenshift-agri.html

Do you folks think as I do that we may end up going to farms for the fuel in the future?  This may solve the starving farmers and slow urban sprawl?! I think that the warmer third world countries will also be able to turn over maybe 2 crop per year, what do you folks think?  

     Now, back to diesel BMW&#039;s...

Do we really have to build big diesels to have big power and lower mpg&#039;s?  

No, I have seen VW diesel&#039;s 1.9&#039;s and 2L&#039;s get Dyno&#039;ed at 250-300+hp and 300-500+ ft/lbs. of torque while still keeping a 40+ mpg.  These can still be daily drivers.  We don&#039;t have to go to these limits.  Diesel engines are moving toward huge gains by techno-know-how, like when carburators went to advanced injection set-ups...  www.centralvwaudi.com, www.racingtdi.com and www.tdiracing.com are examples of this sort of thinking.  As always any BMW comments/speculation are welcome.  Diesel will change everything in the racing world, the ball is already rolling.  

Humble regards, &#039;the forest from the trees&#039; -Johnny K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, primarily corn is used for ethanol as well as the waste/new corn oil can be used for biodiesel.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/11/greenshift-agri.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/11/greenshift-agri.html</a></p>
<p>Do you folks think as I do that we may end up going to farms for the fuel in the future?  This may solve the starving farmers and slow urban sprawl?! I think that the warmer third world countries will also be able to turn over maybe 2 crop per year, what do you folks think?  </p>
<p>     Now, back to diesel BMW&#8217;s&#8230;</p>
<p>Do we really have to build big diesels to have big power and lower mpg&#8217;s?  </p>
<p>No, I have seen VW diesel&#8217;s 1.9&#8217;s and 2L&#8217;s get Dyno&#8217;ed at 250-300+hp and 300-500+ ft/lbs. of torque while still keeping a 40+ mpg.  These can still be daily drivers.  We don&#8217;t have to go to these limits.  Diesel engines are moving toward huge gains by techno-know-how, like when carburators went to advanced injection set-ups&#8230;  <a href="http://www.centralvwaudi.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.centralvwaudi.com</a>, <a href="http://www.racingtdi.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.racingtdi.com</a> and <a href="http://www.tdiracing.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tdiracing.com</a> are examples of this sort of thinking.  As always any BMW comments/speculation are welcome.  Diesel will change everything in the racing world, the ball is already rolling.  </p>
<p>Humble regards, &#8216;the forest from the trees&#8217; -Johnny K.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment and speculation always welcome. Humble regards, Johnny Dabull  ...the forest from the trees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment and speculation always welcome. Humble regards, Johnny Dabull  &#8230;the forest from the trees.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some more interesting sites, just for giggles. Google: corn oil to make biodiesel and I got this...

&quot;The lines between corn and ethanol and soybeans and biodiesel are getting crossed.

Traditionally in the biofuels industry, corn has been used to make ethanol and soybeans make biodiesel.

However, many ethanol plants are planning to change their processing to remove the corn oil either before or after the fermentation process.

This would allow corn oil to be used for biodiesel production and change the nutritional value of the distillers’ grains (DDGs) produced by ethanol plants.

There are two ways to extract corn oil to make biodiesel.

Jeff Kazin, general manager of extraction technology at Renessen, says his company is working on recovering the corn oil before it heads to fermentation.&quot;




http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=3&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iowafarmer.com%2Farticles%2F2007%2F06%2F15%2Ftop_stories%2F03ethaplant.txt&amp;ei=PKlqR4QHiZiCAqjRpYYP&amp;usg=AFQjCNGhJTYrXQxyt4bgHDTndus7nv5w9Q&amp;sig2=D6QGAzL9Vnp90mHPJ4DgdA


the forest from the trees... Johnny Dabull</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some more interesting sites, just for giggles. Google: corn oil to make biodiesel and I got this&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The lines between corn and ethanol and soybeans and biodiesel are getting crossed.</p>
<p>Traditionally in the biofuels industry, corn has been used to make ethanol and soybeans make biodiesel.</p>
<p>However, many ethanol plants are planning to change their processing to remove the corn oil either before or after the fermentation process.</p>
<p>This would allow corn oil to be used for biodiesel production and change the nutritional value of the distillers’ grains (DDGs) produced by ethanol plants.</p>
<p>There are two ways to extract corn oil to make biodiesel.</p>
<p>Jeff Kazin, general manager of extraction technology at Renessen, says his company is working on recovering the corn oil before it heads to fermentation.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=3&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iowafarmer.com%2Farticles%2F2007%2F06%2F15%2Ftop_stories%2F03ethaplant.txt&amp;ei=PKlqR4QHiZiCAqjRpYYP&amp;usg=AFQjCNGhJTYrXQxyt4bgHDTndus7nv5w9Q&amp;sig2=D6QGAzL9Vnp90mHPJ4DgdA" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=3&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iowafarmer.com%2Farticles%2F2007%2F06%2F15%2Ftop_stories%2F03ethaplant.txt&amp;ei=PKlqR4QHiZiCAqjRpYYP&amp;usg=AFQjCNGhJTYrXQxyt4bgHDTndus7nv5w9Q&amp;sig2=D6QGAzL9Vnp90mHPJ4DgdA</a></p>
<p>the forest from the trees&#8230; Johnny Dabull</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 02:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI Biodiesel is made from soybeans and canola oil primarily, not corn.  Corn is being used for the production of ethanol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI Biodiesel is made from soybeans and canola oil primarily, not corn.  Corn is being used for the production of ethanol.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 135d would set once and for a while the BMW benchmark for diesel performance.  As the years go by and fuel becomes scarce..., BMW will make such inroads in this ever competitive market if only it would bring the 135d across the pond.  In the future you will not even be able to get rid of your gas engined cars...  Biodiesel/cornfields will be the new commodity in the third world countries and THE shift in economics will lean southerly.  Legislation will not effect these seamingly less developing countries and a balancing will take place...  

     You don&#039;t need techno-know-how to make biodiesel, heck you can do it in your garage... BMW can CORNer uh, all this if it get&#039;s started before the big domestics do?!  That&#039;s their only way to survive.. they have to bring the diesels over from accross the pond...  If not, then we&#039;ll be the third world developed countries and I&#039;m goin&#039; down south with my 135d.. Habla spanglish?!   Johnny Dabull   ...forest from the trees...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 135d would set once and for a while the BMW benchmark for diesel performance.  As the years go by and fuel becomes scarce&#8230;, BMW will make such inroads in this ever competitive market if only it would bring the 135d across the pond.  In the future you will not even be able to get rid of your gas engined cars&#8230;  Biodiesel/cornfields will be the new commodity in the third world countries and THE shift in economics will lean southerly.  Legislation will not effect these seamingly less developing countries and a balancing will take place&#8230;  </p>
<p>     You don&#8217;t need techno-know-how to make biodiesel, heck you can do it in your garage&#8230; BMW can CORNer uh, all this if it get&#8217;s started before the big domestics do?!  That&#8217;s their only way to survive.. they have to bring the diesels over from accross the pond&#8230;  If not, then we&#8217;ll be the third world developed countries and I&#8217;m goin&#8217; down south with my 135d.. Habla spanglish?!   Johnny Dabull   &#8230;forest from the trees&#8230;</p>
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